Grey Owl Neckerchief Slides – Update

UpdateMike Conkey had asked the for some information on Patch-L about a neckerchief slide he had acquired.

Good Morning! I need some info on a neckerchief slide I picked up and hope the wisdom of the list can help. It is pewter and arrowhead-shaped. Has an arrow (pointing up to the left as you look at it). On top of the arrow is a turtle, below the arrow is “WWW”. Probably from the 1970’s – 1980’s timeframe. Was this a National issue, or does it belong to some “turtle-ish” lodge like Unami?

I replied that it seemed to be one of the slides I had previously discussed in my series on neckerchief slides.

I think it may be related to the ones I referred to in one of blog postings http://www.nyoatrader.com/blog/2007/09/08/grey-owl-neckerchief-slides/
Other totems:
http://www.nyoatrader.com/blog/2007/09/03/thay-en-da-ne-gea-418-metal-neckerchief-slide/
and
http://www.nyoatrader.com/blog/2007/05/14/adirondack-lodge-357-neckerchief-slide/

Roy Weatherbee confirmed my vague recollections:

Sounds like you have a pewter “Totem slide” made/sold for years (going back well into the 1960’s) by Grey Owl (Grey Owl Indian Craft Co.,Jamaica, NY 11434). Their old mail-order catalogs listed a generic arrowhead-shaped pewter slide with arrow and “WWW” to which could be affixed one of serveral dozen different totems. As there were so many lodges that used a turtle for a totem, this is one of the more common ones. These were very popular in the 1960’s and into the 1970’s, though I’m not sure when they were discontinued.

Newer ones have a rectangular slide ring made of the same pewter material

as the slide itself, and are slightly smaller (40x55mm) than older ones

(42x58mm) that have a rectangular chrome-plated steel slide ring (which

appear to have broken off easiy). The oldest one I’ve seen is made of brass or bronze with a circular slide ring of steel painted black. Only the later variety carried any markings: “TOTEM SLIDE” in raised lettering on the back.
These could be ordered by anyone and were popular among OA members of the time. The only one I’ve seen that might be considered a lodge “issue” would be one I have with a deer/buck/stag totem and the pewter numbers 377 in place of WWW – likely a special request ordered by lodge 377 in some quantity as to make it worthwhile for Grey Owl to perform the customization. Would be

interested in hearing if anyone has seen any others bearing a lodge name or number?

Frank Kern advised that:

305 sold this style with a beaver design attached.
336 also sold this design with a ram’s head in profile.

What other ones are out there?



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Table of contents for Neckerchief Slides

  1. Ranachqua Lodge #4 Neckerchief Slide
  2. Ktemaque Lodge #15 Neckerchief Slide
  3. Chappegat Lodge #15 Neckerchief Slide 25th Anniversary
  4. Shu Shu Gah Lodge #24 Neckerchief Slide 45th Anniversary
  5. Shu Shu Gah Lodge #24 Neckerchief Slide
  6. Buckskin Lodge #412 Neckerchief Slide L5
  7. Nacha Nimat Ldoge #86 Neckerchief Slide
  8. Ho De No Sau Nee Lodge #159 Neckerchief Slide
  9. Adirondack Lodge #357 Neckerchief Slide
  10. Kamargo Lodge #294 Neckerchief Slide
  11. Wakanda Lodge #186 Arrowree 1961 Neckerchief Slide
  12. Amo’Chk’ Lodge #339 Flap-Shaped Neckerchief Slide
  13. Buckskin Lodge #412 Neckerchief Slide
  14. Buckskin Lodge #412 Plaster Neckerchief Slide
  15. Thayendanegea Lodge #418 Neckerchief Slide
  16. Shinnecock Lodge #360 Neckerchief Slide
  17. Shu Shu Gah Lodge #24 Eluwak Chapter Bolo Tie
  18. Thay-En-Da-Ne-Gea #418 Metal Neckerchief Slide
  19. Grey Owl Neckerchief Slides
  20. Thay-En-Da-Ne-Gea #418 Area 2-D Conclave Slides
  21. Nischa-Nimat Lodge #181 Neckerchief Slide
  22. Grey Owl Neckerchief Slides – Update
  23. A Look Back – Adirondack Lodge #357 Neckerchief Slide
  24. Ranachqua Lodge #4 Neckerchief Slide – 2
  25. Discovery – Ranachqua Lodge #4 1955 Conclave
  26. Ranachqua Lodge #4 Birchbark Neckerchief Slide
  27. Half Moon Lodge #28 Bolo Slide
  28. What item in your collection means the most to you?
  29. AH Wa Ge Lodge #477 Neal Slide
  30. Area 2-D 1967 Conclave Neckerchief Slide
  31. Discovery – Buckskin Lodge L6
  32. Munsi Lodge #444 Neckerchief Slide
  33. Suanhacky Lodge #49 1958 Neckerchief Slide
  34. Sisilija Lodge #19 Neal Slide
  35. Update – Sislija Lodge #19 Neal Slide
  36. Mide Lodge #15 Hanigus Chapter L1
  37. Early Area 3A Neckerchief Slides
  38. Sisilija Lodge #19 Neal Slide
  39. Sisilija Lodge #19 Neckerchief Slide
  40. Gajuka Lodge #477 Neckerchief slide
  41. Tuscarora Lodge # 284 Neckerchief Slide
  42. Onteroraus Lodge #402 Neckerchief Slide
  43. Kamargo Lodge #294 Slide Farm Neckerchief Slide
  44. Man-A-Hattin Lodge #82 Neckerchief Slide
  45. Another Man-A-Hattin Lodge #82 Neckerchief Slide
  46. Manatoanna Lodge #461 L1 Slide/Bolo
  47. Ranacahqua Lodge #4 Neckerchief Slide #3
  48. Aquehongian Lodge #112 Wooden Neckerchief Slide
  49. Kamargo Lodge #294 Neckerchief Slides
  50. Shu Shu Gah Lodge #24 Totem Slide
  51. Order of the Arrow Neckerchief Slides
  52. Discovery – Mohawk Lodge #267 Neckerchief Slide L1
  53. Man-A-Hattin Lodge #82 1959 Summer Banquet Slide eNS1959
  54. Look Back – Suanhacky Lodge #49 1958 Neckerchief Slide
  55. Discovery – Suanhacky Lodge #49 eL1959
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