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Area 2-A 1959 Pocket Patch

conclaveBack in early 2007, I wrote up what was to become one of my first posts on conclave issues; the 1959 Area 2A Conclave.

At the time I was more concerned with a leather slide and trying to determine if it should be considered a Nooteeming Lodge issue or a Conclave issue.

George Jennings confirmed that it was in fact a conclave gift to all in attendance from Nooteeming, the host lodge.

One item that was not pictured in that post, was a pocket patch also issued for the event.

Area 2-A 1959 Pocket Patch

Area 2-A 1959 Pocket Patch

Thanks to Tom Wadnola for the scan.  I’ll add this to the earlier post as well.

Despite the recent formation of Area 2-J, it appears that the GNYC lodges were in attendance at the event.

According to the OA Section List, the following lodges were part of Area 2-A at this time.

  • Mide Lodge #15
  • Skanondo Lodge #64
  • Horicon Lodge #246
  • Shinnecock Lodge #360
  • Buckskin Lodge #412
  • Nooteeming Lodge #443
  • Munsi Lodge #444

and the GNYC Lodges transitioning to Area 2-J

  • Ranachqua Lodge #4
  • Shu-Shu-Gah Lodge #24
  • Suanhacky Lodge #49
  • Man-A-Hattin Lodge #82
  • Aquehongian Lodge #112
  • You can find links to other New York Area Conclave issues on this page.


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    Section NE-3A 1985 Conclave Staff Hat

    I had previously written on the Section NE-3A 1985 Section conclave, George Jennings sens along a picture of another item issued for this conclave, a silk-screed staff hat. The conclave was hosted by Nooteeming Lodge, and held at Camp Nooteeming.

    While this is not your typical patch or neckerchief, it was issued for the conclave. As always collect what you want for your collection.


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    18th Annual Area 2-D Conclave 1968 Pocket Patch

    ConclaveUpdated: 3-14-08  Here is another image from George Jennings. this one from the 18th Annual Area 2-D Conclave hosted by Nooteeming Lodge #443 at Camp Nooteeming.

    18th Annual Area 2-D Conclave 1968 Pocket Patch

    Does anyone no if there was other memorabilia issued for this conclave? In this era, their was usually a neckerchief issued as well.

    George Jennings has also provided a scan of the neckerchief issued for this event.  It has a different design than the pocket patch.

    18th Annual Area 2-D Conclave 1968 Neckerchief

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    Section NE-2B 1991 Section Conclave Pocket Patch

    ConclaveGeorge Jennings has sent along an image from the Section NE-2B1991 Conclave. George advises that this event was hosted by Nooteeming Lodge #443.

    Section NE-2B 1991 Section Conclave Pocket Patch

    There was also a Jacket Patch of the same design.

    As you can see on the patch, the lodges in Section NE-2B at that time were:Half Moon 28

    • Half Moon #28
    • Skanondo #64
    • Onteroraus #402
    • Nooteeming #443
    • Munsi #444

    Update: August 03, 2008 Tom Wadnola supplies an image of the Jacket Patch.

    Section NE-2A 1991 Jacket Patch

    Section NE-2A 1991 Jacket Patch

    Update April 2016:

    Mia Hubbert sends along an image of the hat pin issued for the 1991 Section NE-2B Conclave.

    Section NE-2B 1991 Section Conclave Hat Pin

    Section NE-2B 1991 Section Conclave Hat Pin

    If you are aware of any other items issued for this conclave or would like to supply an image of your NY Section conclave, email me at nyoatrader -at- nyoatrader dot com.


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    Whatsit? – Whensit? – Section NE-2B Patch Take 2

    I had previously posted on a Section Patch from NE-2B, based on the responses to that posting, it was determined that it was not a Section Conclave issue, and was issued by the Section in the period from after the 1988 Conclave and prior to the Nischa Nimat Lodge #181 merger in September 1990.

    Question MarkBelow we have what appears to be another Section NE-2B patch. Based on the lodges listed (Half Moon #28, Skanondo #64, Onteroraus #402, Nooteeming #443, and Munsi #444), it must have been issued after the September 1990 merger of Nischa Nimat Lodge #181 and prior to the 1994 Section realignments.

    The patch contains the totems of the 5 lodges in the section and an Iroquois Longhouse.

    Based on the information provided on the earlier patch, I don’t think it is a n undated Section Conclave issue. I know it is nit a conclave issues from 1991 or 1994 since I have both.

    Can anyone confirm that it is not a conclave patch put a closer date on when it was issued?

    Section NE-2B Pocket Patch



    1959 Area 2A Conclave Question

    question-mark.jpg Around 1958 Area 2A and 2J were preparing to split. Area 2J held at least one conclave/meeting in 1957. But, it apparently did not formerly organize and/or hold another conclave on its own until some time in the early 1960’s.

    There was an Area 2A Conclave in 1959. I’m not sure where it was held or what lodges (officially) were in attendance, or who was the host lodge?

    Area 2A Conclave Slide 1959

    The slide would lead me to think it was at Camp Nooteeming and 443 the host.

    However the slide could also be a lodge contingent piece since the design is different than the neckerchief nor does it mention the conclave theme .

    I understand that there was a patch and a neckerchief issued. I have the neckerchief pictured below, and also a slide which is a different design than the neckerchief.

    Area 2A 1959 Neckerchief

    Can you provide any information or clarifications?

    Update: Nov. 7, 2009

    There was also a pocket patch issued for the event.

    Area 2-A 1959 Pocket Patch

    Area 2-A 1959 Pocket Patch

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    Nooteeming Lodge #443 S8 Variety discovered

    Another new discovery, this one from Nooteeming Lodge #443 for you completists.

    The origianl listing for the S8, called for a Cloth Back (CB). Irv Block brought a Plastic Back variety (PB) to my attention. After checking with several 443 collectors and lodge members, it appears this variety was never listed in the Blue Book.

    So for those who collect both the front and the back.

    Nooteeming Lodge #443 S8b

    Nooteeming Lodge #443 S8b PB

    Blue Book Stats:

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