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State of the Hobby – Gonlix Lodge #34 F1 First Flap

Another first flap of interest to NY Collectors recently ended on eBay, a Gonlix Lodge #34 F1 First Flap.

Clicking on the image will bring you to the auction for the next few weeks.

There were 7 unique bidders who made 15 bids on this item. five of them sticking in it to over $ 80.00 before the final hammer came down at $ 88.88.

It started at a modest $ 4.99 opening bid. Did it find its true value?

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Look Back – Gonlix Lodge #34 Artist’s Rendition of F1

Over five year ago I posted an image of an artists rendition of the Gonlix F1 and a bit of the back story that went along with it that was provided by Ray Gould.

Gonlix F1 First Flap

Click the link to see the original post and the artists rendition of the flap.

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Area 2-G 1959 Conclave Neckerchief

conclaveBack in August 2008, I had written about the 1959 Area 2-G Conclave.  The conclave was hosted by Gonlix Lodge #34 and was held at Camp Eatonbrook.  At the time I did not have a scan of the neckerchief, which you can see below.

Area 2-G 1959 Neckerchief

Area 2-G 1959 Neckerchief

I have added the neckerchief scan to the original post.


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Area 2-G 1959 Conclave Patch

Neale Cummings sends along an image of the pocket patch from the 1959 Area 2-G conclave.  There was also a neckerchief issued for this event, can anyone share a copy?.

Area 2-G 1959 Conclave Pocket Patch

Area 2-G 1959 Conclave Pocket Patch

Both the neckerchief and patch are needs of mine if anyone has them available, I would be interested in trading for or purchasing them.

Update: Dec 2008

I have acquired both the patch and the neckerchief which cane be seen below:

Area 2-G 1959 Neckerchief

Area 2-G 1959 Neckerchief

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Gonlix Lodge #34 Artist’s Rendition of F1 – First Flap

Ray Gould has found an interesting item of Gonlix Lodge history. He made contact with a former Lodge Chief from the early 1960’s… Well I’ll let him tell it.

As alluded to earlier, I’ve finally received the original drawing (I’m guessing it was the patch company’s rendering…but certainly could have been drawn locally…although doubtful) used for the Gonlix Lodge F-01. It measures roughly 9.5″ x 4.25″.

The gentleman I received it from was a 2 term lodge chief (1962 and 1963). He has all three A-1 varieties (a,b, and c) in his collection of items saved from his Scouting youth (the a and c both on neckerchiefs…yes, he still has them currently) but he did not have the F-01 (he had never seen it…I’ll be sending him a scan to show him how it turned out). He remembers the flap idea being discussed during his tenure as chief but they were not available at that time. He went off to college late 1963 or 1964 (I’ll need to confirm with him) and I’m guessing it was manufactured shortly thereafter (circa 1964). I hope you enjoy seeing this early one-of-a-kind piece of history from Gonlix #34.

Gonlix Lodge #34 Artist’s Rendition of F1 - First Flap

Click on the small image to see it full size.

Here is the finished product.

Gonlix F1 First Flap

Ray thanks again for sharing this one.


Gonlix Lodge #34 Neckerchiefs and What’s a Blue Book Issue

Bill Griesmyer left a comment on my 1:1 page regarding a Gonlix Neckerchief that was not listed in the Blue Book. Bill has a picture on his website, but has allowed me to reproduce the image here and save him some bandwidth.

Gonlix Neckerchief with A1

He describes the neckerchief on his site as follows:

Gonlix Lodge #34 neckerchief. This is a rare neckerchief. The only one I have ever seen. This is a silk neckerchief with the Gonlix arrow patch (A1a or A1c). I have heard there were about 70 made. They were hand made by Patricia Wxxxx (wife of Nelson Wxxxx).

In his comment and subsequent email, he adds the following information.

I’m not sure if Nelson was ever lodge advisor. He was a leader when I was active. He led an effort to form a dance team, which I joined. I remember going to his home in Madison, NY to have him teach about the OA while his wife Pat had my mom help sew our dance outfits.
The neckerchief is a cram/white silk with red piping on the outside. The inner red square is just over 6″ to the side, and is also silk. It has black piping on the outside. I remember being warned not to wash it because the silk dried at different rates. I was given mine by one of my troop leaders (Robert C) when I went to the 1969 National Jamboree. Needless to say, I didn’t trade it. I had never seen another one until the one showed up on eBay this week. I have heard of a few people that had one though.

I was wondering (this isn’t a trade request) why the Gonlix Lodge neckerchief isn’t listed in Blue Book? John Pannell shows the image of the neckerchief to show one of the versions of the arrowhead patch. There is one currently on eBay for sale.

You can see the on on eBay here. I will not be bidding on this one as I have the 34 Gonlix A1 in my collection.

Now the second question at hand is why is it not listed in the Blue Book. The short answer is because it doesn’t meet the criteria. Which begs the question, well what are the criteria.

The Fifth edition of the Blue Book spells it out on page 18 (in part).


The Insignia Listing

What Gets Listed … and What Doesn’t

The distinction is made by what it says on the patch or neckerchief.

Insignia that get listed

  • silkscreened and embroidered neckerchiefs

Insignia that don’t get listed

  • neckerchiefs with sewn-on patches

If the neckerchief had, for example, Dance Team embroidered on it; than it would be listed separately as N99 RED P WHT – – Emb; White Silk with Red Silk diamond BLK Dance Team found with A1 sewn on neckerchief.

Since it is otherwise an un-embroidered and un-silkscreened neckerchief it does not get a separate BB listing, just the A1 listing.

Now each person can and should collect what they want; and I would certainly collect both the neckerchief version and the arrowhead patch (A1) separately if I had been a member of Gonlix, the Blue Book only lists the Arrowhead.