To share information about new or newly discovered Order of the Arrows patches, flaps, odd-shapes, neckerchiefs, event and chapter issues from New York State Order of the Arrow Lodges, warnings about fakes, spoof, and reproductions and any other information that may be of interest to New York State OA Collectors.
Issue Numbers are subject to change as I become aware of new issues, errors or omissions in listings.
The talk on Facebook’s Scout Patch Collectors Group has turned to OA Dance Team issues led by Sam Fairchild’s postings. Nearly 10 years ago I posted about a Dance Team issue from New York State, the Ona Yote Lodge #34 Purple Rock Dancer’s Jacket Patch.
I’m still looking to buy or trade for one of these myself.
Ona Yote Lodge #34 J0.7 Purple Rock Dancers
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“The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted.” – James Madison
The patch is 225mm tall and 201mm wide. I talked to the SM of a troop from the Utica area who said he was the Lodge Chief when the patches were made. There were less than 25 made according to him. He gave the boys in his troop what was left of them and told them to trade for what they could get for them.The patch design reflects the style of oriental embroidery of that time.
Here is an image with a ruler to give you an idea of the size.
Ona Yote Lodge #34 J2 with ruler
and a clean version:
Ona Yote Lodge #34 J2
The stats for this should be:
J2 YEL R BLU – – BLK “Ceremony” RED WWW OBV sashes, Design of S4 but no FDL
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“Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.” Charles Mackay
Here are some more images provided by Tom Wadnola, these ones are from the Section NE-2B 1983 Conclave. The Host Lodge was Ona Yote #34 and as indicated on the patch, it was held at Camp Kingsley.
There was also an embroidered neckerchief issued for the event
Ray Gould has pointed out a new fake on eBay. The seller is from Germany. According to Ray;
Please include a post oin your blog to inform those that read it that the seller patch–world (Germany) is producing fakes and attempting to pass them off as real. His example of the #34 dance team patch is a clear fake (fully embroidered) and may even be a 3″ round (instead of a jacket patch). The auction has been bid up to $150+. Looking at his feedback, it appears that he has given refunds to those who have been dissatisfied with receiving a fake (especially when purchased under the belief it was authentic). He has kept all bid activity private (usernames are completely hidden and not scrambled like normal auctions). I notified a friend who I suspected might bid (he was under the belief the item was authentic and had placed a significant bid). Please spread the word.
The seller has other Scout patches for sale, but this appears to be the only one from New York.
The real item is a twill jacket patch. A picture of the ‘real’ patch is shown below. The image is of the patch in my collection, which I provided to John years ago.
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“A demagogue tries to sound as stupid as his audience so that they will think they are as clever as he is.”—Karl Krauss, German writer and critic of the Third Reich.
“just spent a few hours going through the collection of a well known area collector and friend. I came across what appears to be a previously undocumented JP from 34 Ona Yote”
What discovery have you made in your area of collecting over the past year that is not reflected in the Blue Book listings?
Chris Meacham provides some updated information on an event patch from Ona Yote Lodge #34.
I was browsing OAImages.com and noticed the eR1999 patch, it says “presumed 1999 camporee”. This is incorrect, the patch is from the council’s spring camporee in 2000 which was hosted by Ona Yote lodge. Just thought I’d help with clarification.
My admittedly hazy memory is that I got mine at the Marcy TOR held in late January or early February 2000. I purchased mine form the Lodge table, although the person I got it from was hazy as to when the event was held. It is certainly possible the lodge was taking the opportunity to sell a few before the event to help cover the cost.
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