Shu Shu Gah Lodge #24 Totem Slide
There has been some discussion in the Scout Patch Collectors Facebook Group on Totem Slides. These arrowhead-shaped slides are likely from the 1960’s or 70’s are cast metal 55 mm tall and 40 mm wide. They typically have WWW and an Arrow as part of the design and many have a Lodge totem in the upper right.
Roy Wetherbee has identified Three slide types have been identified based on the ring type on the back of the neckerchief slide.
Type 1 has a round steel ring
Type 2 has a rectangular steel ring
Type 3 appears to be cast with the slide as one piece.
I had previously speculated that these slides were sold by Grey Owl.
Pictured below is a Type 2 Totem slide used by Shu Shu Gah Lodge Members.
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- Ktemaque Lodge #15 Neckerchief Slide
- Chappegat Lodge #15 Neckerchief Slide 25th Anniversary
- Shu Shu Gah Lodge #24 Neckerchief Slide 45th Anniversary
- Shu Shu Gah Lodge #24 Neckerchief Slide
- Buckskin Lodge #412 Neckerchief Slide L5
- Nacha Nimat Ldoge #86 Neckerchief Slide
- Ho De No Sau Nee Lodge #159 Neckerchief Slide
- Adirondack Lodge #357 Neckerchief Slide
- Kamargo Lodge #294 Neckerchief Slide
- Wakanda Lodge #186 Arrowree 1961 Neckerchief Slide
- Amo’Chk’ Lodge #339 Flap-Shaped Neckerchief Slide
- Buckskin Lodge #412 Neckerchief Slide
- Buckskin Lodge #412 Plaster Neckerchief Slide
- Thayendanegea Lodge #418 Neckerchief Slide
- Shinnecock Lodge #360 Neckerchief Slide
- Shu Shu Gah Lodge #24 Eluwak Chapter Bolo Tie
- Thay-En-Da-Ne-Gea #418 Metal Neckerchief Slide
- Grey Owl Neckerchief Slides
- Thay-En-Da-Ne-Gea #418 Area 2-D Conclave Slides
- Nischa-Nimat Lodge #181 Neckerchief Slide
- Grey Owl Neckerchief Slides – Update
- A Look Back – Adirondack Lodge #357 Neckerchief Slide
- Ranachqua Lodge #4 Neckerchief Slide – 2
- Discovery – Ranachqua Lodge #4 1955 Conclave
- Ranachqua Lodge #4 Birchbark Neckerchief Slide
- Half Moon Lodge #28 Bolo Slide
- What item in your collection means the most to you?
- AH Wa Ge Lodge #477 Neal Slide
- Area 2-D 1967 Conclave Neckerchief Slide
- Discovery – Buckskin Lodge L6
- Munsi Lodge #444 Neckerchief Slide
- Suanhacky Lodge #49 1958 Neckerchief Slide
- Sisilija Lodge #19 Neal Slide
- Update – Sislija Lodge #19 Neal Slide
- Mide Lodge #15 Hanigus Chapter L1
- Early Area 3A Neckerchief Slides
- Sisilija Lodge #19 Neal Slide
- Sisilija Lodge #19 Neckerchief Slide
- Gajuka Lodge #477 Neckerchief slide
- Tuscarora Lodge # 284 Neckerchief Slide
- Onteroraus Lodge #402 Neckerchief Slide
- Kamargo Lodge #294 Slide Farm Neckerchief Slide
- Man-A-Hattin Lodge #82 Neckerchief Slide
- Another Man-A-Hattin Lodge #82 Neckerchief Slide
- Manatoanna Lodge #461 L1 Slide/Bolo
- Ranacahqua Lodge #4 Neckerchief Slide #3
- Aquehongian Lodge #112 Wooden Neckerchief Slide
- Kamargo Lodge #294 Neckerchief Slides
- Shu Shu Gah Lodge #24 Totem Slide
- Order of the Arrow Neckerchief Slides
- Discovery – Mohawk Lodge #267 Neckerchief Slide L1
- Man-A-Hattin Lodge #82 1959 Summer Banquet Slide eNS1959
- Look Back – Suanhacky Lodge #49 1958 Neckerchief Slide
- Discovery – Suanhacky Lodge #49 eL1959
Here’s some more recent info regarding these slides. While I’ve confirmed they were made in NYC, I have not confirmed if they were ever sold by Grey Owl. I have a photo album for these slides started here on my facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.462371083802068.102768.114291255276721&type=1&l=913ad2c692
I collect OA from Region 1 and took an interest in these when they began to surface in a number of old collections (including several from within my own lodge 525). I’m sure that the generic ones were used all across the country, and some lodges probably ordered them for their lodge trading post (giving rise the the belief by some that they constitute “lodge issues”), but I also have a few that were clearly custom made for specific lodges and probably should be considered lodge issues.
Until Tracy Mesler (Texas) sent me images of his slide collection, I had NEVER seen the slides in their original packaging. However, the “NYC” and “10012” gave me just enough info to track down an old Trademark Registration (filed 1965, registered 1966, expired 1989) which revealed the trademark owner as:
EASTERN HANDICRAFT SUPPLY CO., INC.
(d.b.a. “TOTEM SLIDES”)
132 SPRING ST.
NYC, NY 10012
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=72218538&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch
They’re obviously no longer around and their trademark expired in 1989, so it’s logical to assume they went out of business sometime between 1966 and 1989. These were popular in the 1960s, but it’s unclear to me how long they were around beyond that. I’ve dug up several within my own lodge (525) but always from members who were active in the 1960s.
Armed with this info, I found and purchased a 1954 Eastern Handicraft catalog. Unfortunately there was no mention of these at all, so 1954 was obviously a bit too early.
Although their trademark application was not filed until 1965, I believe (based on the age of some of the collections in which these have been found) that the earliest may date to the 1950’s.
According to Google Books, the company was mentioned in a number of publications:
Boy’s Life — 7/61, 11/63, 6/65, 12/65, 12/66 (and probably others)
1962 National Camp Directors Guide (also contains ads for Grey Owl and Neal Slides)
http://www.scribd.com/doc/104351395/National-Camp-Directors-Guide-1962
Their display ad from the June 1965 issue of Boy’s Life mentions a “free full color photo and price list” which, if we could track down, would be enlightening. I remember seeing these in some catalog as a youth (70s-era), so will continue to search for a Grey Owl catalog that may contain these – possible as both companies were in the NYC area. OTOH, they were also competitors as well.
Roy
Thanks. For the lengthy comment. I’ve. been able to check Grey. Owl catalogs from 1976 & 1978 and they did not have these slides.