Collecting Ten Mile River Scout Camps and NYC OA Patches Webinar

Here is a link to the webinar I hosted on Collecting Ten Mile River Scout Camps and NYC OA Patches. This is a very high level overview and I try to cover a lot of ground in a short period of time. The first portion of the talk is devoted to TMR, with the final portion to the NYC OA Lodges.

The topic is “Collecting Ten Mile River Scout Camps and OA patches.”

​Bill Mulrenin (aka “NY OA Trader,” https://www.nyoatrader.com), Eagle Scout and Vigil Honor member will lead a discussion about collecting and trading Ten Mile River Scout Camps’ and Order of the Arrow Patches. Bill is a Trustee of the Ten Mile River Scout Camp Museum, chairman of its’ Memorabilia Committee and the New York State Editor for the Blue Book.

I’m particularly interested in any information you may have on Ranachqua Lodge event issues from the 1950’s and any Chapter issues as I do not believe they are well documented.


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Shu Shu Gah Lodge #24 Nah-Ne-Wa-Ye Chapter Hatband HAB1

It is not often that I can cross off a Shu Shu Gah Lodge #24 Chapter issue need from my list. I was fortunate to pick one up a few months ago. While it looks like a small sash, it was actually made as a hatband for an old style campaign hat.

Shu Shu Gah Lodge #24 Nah-Ne-Wa-Ye Chapter Hatband HAB1

Shu Shu Gah Lodge #24 Nah-Ne-Wa-Ye Chapter Hatband HAB1

My Shu Shu Gah Lodge #24 chapter needs currently include:

# Issue Border R/C Back Name FDL Description
24 Achewen Schingue N2 RED YEL SSC; “1959” (officers?)`
24 Bischuwi R1 RED C WHT BLU twill; 104 RND; RED “WWW”; BLU bird; “CONVENTION 1952”; (NOAC52?)
24 Kotohke N2 RWB P WHT T-bird; (officers)
24 Ktchkinquehhellen eN1956-1 RED WHT BLK 56 CONV; “WWW”
24 Ktchkinquehhellen eN1956-2 RED WHT BLU SSC; “56 CONV”; no “WWW”
24 Nah Ne Wah Ye eL19xx WHT BLU lst Nah-Ne-Wah-Ye Chapter, O.A.-J.L.T.C
24 Nakowa X2 WHT C RED WHT Amer. Indian head; small 79 mm across
24 Nakowa eX1965 BRN WHT WHT Annual Dinner 50th Anniversary Feb. 28, 1965
24 Oseetah N1 RED P YEL SSC;  GRY rock; “1950”
24 Oseetah N3 WHT RED SSC;  25th “Silver” ANN 1927-1952
24 Oseetah R1 GRN RED SSC; leatherette
24 Petapan F1 BLK C WHT RED TL; 122×55 mm; RED arrow; BLK heron; button hole in bird
24 Sacut X1 YEL YEL BLK Felt wildcat on yellow felt
24 Sakanenk A1 ??? ??? ??? squatting American Indian
24 Sakanenk eL1957 WHT BLU WHT “1957” w/pocket tab
24 Sakanenk eL1959 Arrowhead shaped; SSC; conclave
24 Sakanenk eL1960 Round shaped; SSC; May
24 Sakanenk X3.5 RED C BLK WHT design of X3 but clenched fist w/spear (no fletchings on arrow); fingers on hand not outlined
24 Showandassee eX1957 RED MAR RED ORD HONOR w/tab DIA
24 Showandassee eX1977-2a RED R YEL GRY YEL ORD; “ALPINE SCOUT CAMP”; OCT TR
24 Showandassee J1 WHT WHT emb; FELT; heron shape
24 Wambuli J1 WHT WHT; BLU heron; sateen; EMB (1956); Lg Heron shape
24 Wambuli J2 WHT WHT; BLU heron; composition; Lg Heron shape (May be listed as 24 J1)

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“With those who wish to think amiss of me, I have learned to be perfectly indifferent; but where I know a mind to be ingenuous, and to need only truth to set it to rights, I cannot be passive.” –Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Abigail Adams, 1804

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Shu Shu Gah Lodge #24 Beadwork

Not a patch this time, but some nice beadwork fro a Shu Shu Gah Lodge #24 Brother sent along by Gene Berman.

Not sure the era or when it was used, but I thought I would share it.

Here is one side:

Shu Shu Gah Lodge #24 Beadwork 1

Shu Shu Gah Lodge #24 Beadwork 1


Clicking on the image will bring you to a larger version.

and the reverse side.

Shu Shu Gah Lodge #24 Beadwork 2

Shu Shu Gah Lodge #24 Beadwork 2

Clicking on the image will bring you to a larger version.

A neat collectible if you are from the lodge or a fan of beadwork.

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“[E]very man, conducting himself as a good citizen, and being accountable to God alone for his religious opinions, ought to be protected in worshipping the Deity according to the dictates of his own conscience.” –George Washington, letter to the General Committee of the United Baptist Churches in Virginia, 1789

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Shu Shu Gah Lodge #24 Achewen Schingue Chapter JLTC eN1962

Ian Pinnavaia has been on a mission recently. He has come across what he believes is a previously unlisted Achewen Schingue Chapter issue from a JLTC in 1962.

I picked up a N/C on eBay a while back which at the time was a total gamble on whether or not it could have been an issue of Achewen Schingue chapter or not. Before I bid I asked my Dad who had a vague recollection of it, and thought he had one in our collection already but surely we didn’t. I asked around to others like Bim Bxxxxxx, Hal (working for Uncle Sam at the time) and one or two more from the chapter who had a similar reaction to hosting a JLTC for the district, vague but nothing definitive.

Since working with Colin and others to pull the lodge history book together last year I’ve been on a mission to fill gaps in Shu Shu Gah’s lodge officer history, vigil list and a few other areas where we may be lacking key pieces of information. Other Lodge’s may follow as time allows. While reading old Blue Heron newsletters I came across an A.S. chapter report in a 1963 edition of the Blue Heron which cites the successfulness of running a JLTC for the past two years for the district. See the link below. The Indian directly resembles the A.S. indian from the patches. A neat discovery just from thumbing through a few pages of the old Blue Heron’s for a completely unrelated reason.

http://tmrmuseum.org/archive/Order%20of%20the%20Arrow/Shu-Shu-Gah%20Lodge%20No%2024/Publications/Blue%20Heron/1963/1963-00/slides/19630000-04.html

Here is a snip from that page:
as-jltc

and a picture of the standard Achewen Schingue totem used on their issues for 40+ years:

Achewen Schingue Chapter Patch

Achewen Schingue Chapter Patch

and finally the neckerchief Ian discovered

Shu Shu Gah Lodge #24 Achewen Schingue Chapter JLTC eN1962

Shu Shu Gah Lodge #24 Achewen Schingue Chapter JLTC eN1962

I think this should be listed as a chapter issue with the following stats:
eN1962 BLK P WHT – – BLK Flatbush J.L.T.C. 1962

Anyone have one for trade or sale?


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“Wherever the real power in a Government lies, there is the danger of oppression.” —James Madison (1788)

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Look Back – Shu Shu Gah Lodge #24 Showandasse Chapter A1 & A2

Two years ago, I was posting about an Identification Aide for the Shu Shu Gah Lodge #24 Showandasse Chapter A1 & A2.

Shu Shu Gah Lodge #24 Showandasse Chapter A1

The stats are:
A1 RED C ORG RED twill; thin lettering; GRN thunderbird; 78×110 mm; GRN “WWW”
The most obvious difference is not noted. The length of “Chapter” is approximately 30mm.

Shu Shu Gah Lodge #24 Showandasse Chapter A2

For this one the stats are:
A2 RED C ORG RED twill; thick lettering; GRN thunderbird; 72×116 mm; GRN “WWW”
The most obvious difference again is not noted. The length of “Chapter” is approximately 45mm

I’m always looking for Shu Shu Gah Chapter patches and neckerchiefs. What do you have for trade or sale?

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“We may look up to Armies for Defence, but Virtue is our best Security. It is not possible that any state should long remain free, where Virtue is not supremely honord.” —Samuel Adams (1775)

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Shu Shu Gah Lodge #24 Oseetah Chapter Neckerchief

Identification Aide
Ian Pinnavaia has been trying to get a complete set of images for all Shu Shu Gah Lodge issues and has been working with Gene Berman to track down images of certain chapter issues.

Shu Shu Gah Lodge #24 Oseetah Chapter Neckerchief

Shu Shu Gah Lodge #24 Oseetah Chapter Neckerchief

Gene opines:

…the Other is one of the Oseetah (neckerchief)’s requested. I do not believe there really is a gray version. The scans on this and the following do not really show it but one is definitely tan and the other is more like an off white which might just be either a
bleaching when being washed or sunlight exposure or a slight different color of cloth but there are not in my opinion two distinctly different Oseetah anniversary neckerchiefs.

The Blue Book Listings are:
N2 LGY RED SSC; 25th “Silver” ANN 1927-1952
N3 WHT RED SSC; 25th “Silver” ANN 1927-1952

Anyone have a either the white or light gray cloth version for trade or sale?

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“In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first enable the government to control the governed; and in the next place, oblige it to control itself.” –James Madison

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Shu Shu Gah Lodge #24 Sakanenk Chapter eL1960

Identification Aide
Ian Pinnavaia has been trying to get a complete set of images for all Shu Shu Gah Lodge issues and has been working with Gene Berman to track down images of certain chapter issues.

24sak-el1960

This is a need of mine. Anyone have one for trade or sale?

You requested the 1960 leather. Note the space in the middle. I do not know why that was done. They were all like that. I have had three through the years (not any more) and have seen others and they are all like that. Perhaps you can find someone who attended that would know why that was done?

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“Can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with his wrath?” –Thomas Jefferson (1781)

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