{"id":7409,"date":"2010-11-27T14:00:24","date_gmt":"2010-11-27T19:00:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/?p=7409"},"modified":"2014-11-23T15:11:42","modified_gmt":"2014-11-23T20:11:42","slug":"a-look-back-wakpominee-lodge-48-l1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/2010\/11\/27\/a-look-back-wakpominee-lodge-48-l1\/","title":{"rendered":"A Look Back &#8211; Wakpominee Lodge #48 L1?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/01\/a-look-back.gif\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-1311\" title=\"A Look Back\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/01\/a-look-back.gif?resize=345%2C56\" alt=\"\" width=\"345\" height=\"56\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Two and a half years ago in May 2008, a wrote a post titled <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/2008\/05\/28\/wakpominee-48-l1-is-it-or-isnt-it\/\">L1 \u00e2\u20ac\u201c Is It or Isn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t It?<\/a>.  The post questioned whether the Wakpominee L1 as listed in the Blue Book, was really a Wakpominee issue.<\/p>\n<p>It said in part:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Jim Clough, himself a long term member and advisor of Wakpominee Lodge is adamant that;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>There never was an L1 for Wakpominee. \u00e2\u20ac\u00a6.The guy who  emailed me said it was made in the 30\u00e2\u20ac\u00b2s or so. Hey, I was in the lodge  in the 40\u00e2\u20ac\u00b2s and there never was any leather patches made nor was there  any indication that one was made in the 30\u00e2\u20ac\u00b2s. If something was made it  was done by an individual and not an issue of the lodge. The first patch  for Wakpominee was in 1948 and I was there. \u00e2\u20ac\u00a6\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6In the old Arapaho book,  the first one, there is a picture of a leather squirrel, but it does  not say 48 nor does it have the name Wakpominee on it.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>So there you have the state of play as I know it. Two National guides  listed it, but I have no provenance as to where the listing came from.  All of the local sources either dispute it , don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t list it and it  certainly doesn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t appear in a major NY OA collections that I am aware  of.<\/p>\n<p>Of course that in itself, is not proof. It is certainly possible that  it was used in the very early 1930\u00e2\u20ac\u00b2s for a brief time and the memory of  it was lost.<\/p>\n<p><strong>What do you think?<\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>There are now two auctions running on eBay which purport to be the Wakpominee Lodge L1<\/p>\n<p>The <a href=\"http:\/\/rover.ebay.com\/rover\/1\/711-53200-19255-0\/1?icep_ff3=2&amp;pub=5574851416&amp;toolid=10001&amp;campid=5336381953&amp;customid=&amp;icep_item=180591393330&amp;ipn=psmain&amp;icep_vectorid=229466&amp;kwid=902099&amp;mtid=824&amp;kw=lg\" target=\"_self\">first one<\/a> ends in less than a day:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/rover.ebay.com\/rover\/1\/711-53200-19255-0\/1?icep_ff3=2&amp;pub=5574851416&amp;toolid=10001&amp;campid=5336381953&amp;customid=&amp;icep_item=180591393330&amp;ipn=psmain&amp;icep_vectorid=229466&amp;kwid=902099&amp;mtid=824&amp;kw=lg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-7410\" title=\"FireShot capture #141 - 'OA Lodge 48 Wakpominee L1 First Issue NY RARE Boy Scout - eBay (item 180591393330 end time Nov-28-10 09_28_08 PST)' - cgi_ebay_com_ws_eBayISAPI_dll_ViewItem\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/FireShot-capture-141-OA-Lodge-48-Wakpominee-L1-First-Issue-NY-RARE-Boy-Scout-eBay-item-180591393330-end-time-Nov-28-10-09_28_08-PST-cgi_ebay_com_ws_eBayISAPI_dll_ViewItem.jpg?resize=450%2C198\" alt=\"\" width=\"450\" height=\"198\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/FireShot-capture-141-OA-Lodge-48-Wakpominee-L1-First-Issue-NY-RARE-Boy-Scout-eBay-item-180591393330-end-time-Nov-28-10-09_28_08-PST-cgi_ebay_com_ws_eBayISAPI_dll_ViewItem.jpg?w=450&amp;ssl=1 450w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/FireShot-capture-141-OA-Lodge-48-Wakpominee-L1-First-Issue-NY-RARE-Boy-Scout-eBay-item-180591393330-end-time-Nov-28-10-09_28_08-PST-cgi_ebay_com_ws_eBayISAPI_dll_ViewItem.jpg?resize=300%2C132&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/a>Clicking on the auction will bring you to the auction for the next few months.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">The seller has included a number of photos in the auction, picturing other patches on the vest.\u00c2\u00a0 Nothing pictured on the vest leads me to think this has been anywhere near upstate New York.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">The<a href=\"http:\/\/rover.ebay.com\/rover\/1\/711-53200-19255-0\/1?icep_ff3=2&amp;pub=5574851416&amp;toolid=10001&amp;campid=5336381953&amp;customid=&amp;icep_item=180592696338&amp;ipn=psmain&amp;icep_vectorid=229466&amp;kwid=902099&amp;mtid=824&amp;kw=lg\" target=\"_self\"> second seller<\/a> has more modest ambitions (and is only offering a single patch).<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/rover.ebay.com\/rover\/1\/711-53200-19255-0\/1?icep_ff3=2&amp;pub=5574851416&amp;toolid=10001&amp;campid=5336381953&amp;customid=&amp;icep_item=180592696338&amp;ipn=psmain&amp;icep_vectorid=229466&amp;kwid=902099&amp;mtid=824&amp;kw=lg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-7411\" title=\"48L1 -2\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/48L1-2.jpg?resize=450%2C192\" alt=\"\" width=\"450\" height=\"192\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/48L1-2.jpg?w=450&amp;ssl=1 450w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/48L1-2.jpg?resize=300%2C128&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/a>Clicking on the image will bring you to the auction for the next few months.<\/p>\n<p>The seller adds:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;\"> This patch came from an estate sale over  25 years ago with 1930&#8217;s &#8211; 1940&#8217;s Boy Scout and military items.\u00c2\u00a0 I  wasn&#8217;t sure what this was until seeing another patch like this listed  recently.\u00c2\u00a0 Also in the sale were loose patches and several vests with  patches from multiple areas which were traded and collected at a Region 7  Hoe-Down in Wisconsin in the 1940&#8217;s. <\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;\">Again nothing indicates that this patch has been anywhere near upstate New York. <\/span><\/p>\n<p>[auction-affiliate tool=&#8221;lister&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;\">My opinion is unchanged:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>My inclination is to amend the listing to YL1 with a note  disputed  provenance unless and until better, more absolute, verification  can be  made.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Are there any Squirrel totem lodges from the Wisconsin area?<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><object width=\"355\" height=\"300\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"http:\/\/togo.ebay.com\/togo\/togo.swf?2008013100\" \/><param name=\"flashvars\" value=\"base=http:\/\/togo.ebay.com\/togo\/&#038;lang=en-us&#038;mode=search&#038;query=wakpominee&#038;campid=5336381953\" \/><\/object><\/p>\n<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br \/>\n&#8220;Before anything else, preparation is the key to success.&#8221; 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