{"id":7333,"date":"2010-11-16T07:27:57","date_gmt":"2010-11-16T12:27:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/?p=7333"},"modified":"2014-08-26T09:20:34","modified_gmt":"2014-08-26T14:20:34","slug":"onteroraus-lodge-402n1-or-1952-2-d-conclave-neckerchief","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/2010\/11\/16\/onteroraus-lodge-402n1-or-1952-2-d-conclave-neckerchief\/","title":{"rendered":"Onteroraus Lodge #402N1 or 1952 2-D Conclave Neckerchief?"},"content":{"rendered":"<blockquote><p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/rest-of-the-story.png\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-7334\" title=\"rest of the story\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/rest-of-the-story.png?resize=450%2C45\" alt=\"\" width=\"450\" height=\"45\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/rest-of-the-story.png?w=450&amp;ssl=1 450w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/rest-of-the-story.png?resize=300%2C30&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>An auction recently ended on eBay for what was listed as a <a href=\"http:\/\/rover.ebay.com\/rover\/1\/711-53200-19255-0\/1?icep_ff3=2&amp;pub=5574851416&amp;toolid=10001&amp;campid=5336381953&amp;customid=&amp;icep_item=280586067042&amp;ipn=psmain&amp;icep_vectorid=229466&amp;kwid=902099&amp;mtid=824&amp;kw=lg\">1952 Area 2-D Conclave Neckerchief<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/rover.ebay.com\/rover\/1\/711-53200-19255-0\/1?icep_ff3=2&amp;pub=5574851416&amp;toolid=10001&amp;campid=5336381953&amp;customid=&amp;icep_item=280586067042&amp;ipn=psmain&amp;icep_vectorid=229466&amp;kwid=902099&amp;mtid=824&amp;kw=lg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-7335\" title=\"1952 2D N\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/1952-2D-N.jpg?resize=450%2C214\" alt=\"\" width=\"450\" height=\"214\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/1952-2D-N.jpg?w=450&amp;ssl=1 450w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/1952-2D-N.jpg?resize=300%2C142&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/a>Clicking on the image will bring you to the auction for the next few months.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">The seller added:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">This is a very rare neckerchief from Area 2-D in northern New York.  At  the first and second conclave for this Area, the neckerchief just had  the 3 W&#8217;s, the 1951 had flocked W&#8217;s and the 1952 had 3 silk screened W&#8217;s  and an arrow.  You have to accept my word on this, only because I was  there.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">But to me it looked like the 402N1<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">\n<figure id=\"attachment_7336\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7336\" style=\"width: 450px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/402n1.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-7336\" title=\"402n1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/402n1.jpg?resize=450%2C384\" alt=\"\" width=\"450\" height=\"384\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/402n1.jpg?w=450&amp;ssl=1 450w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/402n1.jpg?resize=300%2C256&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-7336\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Onteroraus Lodge #402 N1<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Image Courtesy <a href=\"http:\/\/www.oaimages.net\/\" target=\"_self\">OA Images <\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">So I went to Don Txxxxx the Lodge 402 historian for the rest of the story:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">It is most definitely NOT an Area 2-D Conclave neckerchief; I have in the  lodge&#8217;s archives the original mimeographed program for this conclave held at  Crumhorn Mt. Camp and there is no mention of a &#8220;generic&#8221; neckerchief of this  type for sale then. This neckerchief\u00c2\u00a0 is oversized (35x35x51in) SSC&#8217;d in RED on  what appears to be cotton sheeting (not lightweight cotton yardgoods commonly  used for commercial screen printed neckerchiefs in the 1950s. Over the years I  have accumulated almost a dozen of this neckerchief, all originally from the  Onteroraus Lodge area only. Several have badly misprinted screenwork (one has  the printing off by almost 1 1\/2&#8243; from the margin), which leads me to believe it  was locally made and not ordered from a commercial supplier. While this  neckerchief could conceivably still have been available at the 1952 conclave, I  have never got information that it was made for that event.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Crumhorn Mountain Scout Reservation is the home of Onteroraus Lodge, so it is likely that the neckerchief was available at least for trade from some of the early Lodge 402 brothers.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Don adds:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">&#8221; Onteroraus Lodge N1 1948-1950. This is a unusually large Order of the Arrow  neckerchief, 35x35x51in., red screened WWWs pierced by a red right-facing arrow,  red bands on white cotton sheeting. According to charter lodge member Ken  Bxxxxx, this neckerchief was made available to all of the 40 new brothers  inducted in 1948. The neckerchief carries no specific Onteroraus Lodge  designation and may have been locally handmade.&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">So that&#8217;s the rest of the story. 1952 Area 2-D Neckerchief or 402N1.\u00c2\u00a0 You decide.<\/p>\n<p>[phpbay]Onteroraus Lodge, 5[\/phpbay]<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><object width=\"355\" height=\"300\" classid=\"clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000\" codebase=\"http:\/\/download.macromedia.com\/pub\/shockwave\/cabs\/flash\/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0\"><param name=\"flashvars\" value=\"base=http:\/\/togo.ebay.com\/togo\/&amp;lang=en-us&amp;mode=search&amp;query=conclave&amp;campid=5336381953\" \/><param name=\"src\" value=\"http:\/\/togo.ebay.com\/togo\/togo.swf?2008013100\" \/><\/object><\/p>\n<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br \/>\n&#8220;They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.&#8221; &#8211;Benjamin Franklin<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>An auction recently ended on eBay for what was listed as a 1952 Area 2-D Conclave Neckerchief. Clicking on the image will bring you to the auction for the next few months. The seller added: This is a very rare neckerchief from Area 2-D in northern New York. At the first and second conclave for&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[38,22],"tags":[87,172],"series":[],"class_list":["post-7333","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-section-conclaves","category-onteroraus-402","tag-2-d","tag-172","wpcat-38-id","wpcat-22-id"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/pe0C4-1Uh","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7333","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=7333"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7333\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":20310,"href":"https:\/\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7333\/revisions\/20310"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=7333"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=7333"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=7333"},{"taxonomy":"series","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/series?post=7333"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}