{"id":5777,"date":"2010-01-11T07:56:25","date_gmt":"2010-01-11T12:56:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/?p=5777"},"modified":"2010-01-09T20:16:40","modified_gmt":"2010-01-10T01:16:40","slug":"a-look-back-how-would-you-value-a-well-used-first-flap","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/2010\/01\/11\/a-look-back-how-would-you-value-a-well-used-first-flap\/","title":{"rendered":"A Look Back &#8211; How would you value a well used First Flap?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/01\/a-look-back.gif\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-1311\" title=\"A Look Back\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/01\/a-look-back.gif?resize=345%2C56\" alt=\"\" width=\"345\" height=\"56\" \/><\/a>Almost 4 years ago I wrote a post entitled, <a title=\"Permanent Link: How would you value a well used First Flap?\" rel=\"bookmark\" href=\"..\/2006\/02\/16\/how-would-you-value-a-well-used-first-flap\/\">How would you value a well used First Flap?<\/a><\/p>\n<p>It began,<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I was recently contacted by a ex-Scouter who had what appeared to be a Wakpominee 48 F1 in well-used condition. It had been sewn, washed and exhibited at least some box-dirt but overall was still in decent but not great condition.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And I asked several questions:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>1.  How much of a percentage discount from a mint specimen would you think would be justified for the used flap pictured above?<\/p>\n<p>2. If there was a similar valued item with a similar scarcity (and condition) from one of the lodges\/councils\/ areas you collect would you be willing to put it in your collection in that condition?<\/p>\n<p>3. What about if this was the last item you need to complete your prime collection? Would a used item do or would you hold out (and pay) for a mint one?<\/p>\n<p>4.  What percentage discount from \u00e2\u20ac\u0153mint\u00e2\u20ac\u009d would you value a used item at?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Another <a href=\"http:\/\/rover.ebay.com\/rover\/1\/711-53200-19255-0\/1?icep_ff3=2&amp;pub=5574851416&amp;toolid=10001&amp;campid=5336381953&amp;customid=&amp;icep_item=160390298720&amp;ipn=psmain&amp;icep_vectorid=229466&amp;kwid=902099&amp;mtid=824&amp;kw=lg\" target=\"_self\">Wakpominee Lodge #48 First Flap<\/a><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"text-decoration: none; border: 0; padding: 0; margin: 0;\" src=\"http:\/\/rover.ebay.com\/roverimp\/1\/711-53200-19255-0\/1?ff3=2&amp;pub=5574851416&amp;toolid=10001&amp;campid=5336381953&amp;customid=&amp;item=160390298720&amp;mpt=[CACHEBUSTER]\" alt=\"\" \/> recently appeared on eBay.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/rover.ebay.com\/rover\/1\/711-53200-19255-0\/1?icep_ff3=2&amp;pub=5574851416&amp;toolid=10001&amp;campid=5336381953&amp;customid=&amp;icep_item=160390298720&amp;ipn=psmain&amp;icep_vectorid=229466&amp;kwid=902099&amp;mtid=824&amp;kw=lg\" target=\"_self\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-5778\" title=\"48F1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/01\/48F1.jpg?resize=450%2C137\" alt=\"\" width=\"450\" height=\"137\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/01\/48F1.jpg?w=450&amp;ssl=1 450w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/01\/48F1.jpg?resize=300%2C91&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/a>Clicking on the image, will bring you to the auction for the next couple of months.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">So was this a reasonable price for a used flap or a bargain due to the economy?<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">There was another New York State OA auction that recently ended on eBay, an <a href=\"http:\/\/rover.ebay.com\/rover\/1\/711-53200-19255-0\/1?icep_ff3=2&amp;pub=5574851416&amp;toolid=10001&amp;campid=5336381953&amp;customid=&amp;icep_item=260529506006&amp;ipn=psmain&amp;icep_vectorid=229466&amp;kwid=902099&amp;mtid=824&amp;kw=lg\" target=\"_self\">Aola Lodge #410 P1<\/a><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"text-decoration: none; border: 0; padding: 0; margin: 0;\" src=\"http:\/\/rover.ebay.com\/roverimp\/1\/711-53200-19255-0\/1?ff3=2&amp;pub=5574851416&amp;toolid=10001&amp;campid=5336381953&amp;customid=&amp;item=260529506006&amp;mpt=[CACHEBUSTER]\" alt=\"\" \/>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/rover.ebay.com\/rover\/1\/711-53200-19255-0\/1?icep_ff3=2&amp;pub=5574851416&amp;toolid=10001&amp;campid=5336381953&amp;customid=&amp;icep_item=260529506006&amp;ipn=psmain&amp;icep_vectorid=229466&amp;kwid=902099&amp;mtid=824&amp;kw=lg\" target=\"_self\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-5779\" title=\"410P1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/01\/410P1.jpg?resize=450%2C125\" alt=\"\" width=\"450\" height=\"125\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/01\/410P1.jpg?w=450&amp;ssl=1 450w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/01\/410P1.jpg?resize=300%2C83&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/a>Clicking on the image for the next couple of months will bring you to the auction results.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">While not really visible in the small picture,\u00c2\u00a0 the larger image shows several rusty staple marks which likely affected the final price.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Both of these items went for well under the &#8216;going rate&#8217; for a mint specimen.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">So a sign of he times or what a non-mint patch should go for?<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<\/p>\n<dl>\n<dt>My doctor gave me two weeks to live. I hope they&#8217;re in August.<\/dt>\n<dd><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.quotationspage.com\/quotes\/Ronnie_Shakes\/\">Ronnie Shakes<\/a><\/strong><\/dd>\n<\/dl>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Almost 4 years ago I wrote a post entitled, How would you value a well used First Flap? It began, I was recently contacted by a ex-Scouter who had what appeared to be a Wakpominee 48 F1 in well-used condition. 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