{"id":1701,"date":"2008-06-04T17:31:15","date_gmt":"2008-06-04T21:31:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/?p=1701"},"modified":"2008-06-03T20:32:20","modified_gmt":"2008-06-04T00:32:20","slug":"suanhacky-lodge-49-s59-and-gila-lodge-related-or-not","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/2008\/06\/04\/suanhacky-lodge-49-s59-and-gila-lodge-related-or-not\/","title":{"rendered":"Suanhacky Lodge #49 S59 and Gila Lodge Related or Not?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>After posting last week on the new <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/2008\/05\/29\/suanhacky-lodge-49-executive-board-flap-s59\/\" target=\"_self\">Executive Board Flap from Suanhacky Lodge #49<\/a>; John Pannell sent along an image of a similar looking issue from Gila Lodge #378 (the S35).<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/06\/378s35.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1702\" title=\"Gila-Lodge-378s35\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/06\/378s35.jpg?resize=410%2C195\" alt=\"\" width=\"410\" height=\"195\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">The Suanhacky Lodge #49 you may remember, looked like:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/05\/49s59.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1682\" title=\"49s59\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/05\/49s59.jpg?resize=413%2C204\" alt=\"\" width=\"413\" height=\"204\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/05\/49s59.jpg?w=413&amp;ssl=1 413w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.nyoatrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/05\/49s59.jpg?resize=300%2C148&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 413px) 100vw, 413px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">John wondered if:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Did 378&#8217;s issue inspire 49&#8217;s?<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">I sent out an email and found out that the current Lodge Chief, John Mulvey came up with the concept for the flap.  John M replied:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">The design was completely independent of any other flap that might have been  issued by any other lodge.  I had never seen the other patch in question and the  final design was the product of my original idea and the work of a Stadri  artist.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">The genesis of the patch actually uses the Stag design from a previous issue  (S25) sent to the artist to demonstrate a &#8220;cartoon stag&#8221;.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>The &#8220;cartoon stag,&#8221; Waldo dates back to the S25 which was issued for the 1998 NAOC.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">It might be interesting to find out if the Gila issue was also designed or executed by Stadri; but the dollar bill motif could certainly have been developed independently.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong>So the verdict: Not Related<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<\/p>\n<div>&#8220;<strong>Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may  be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than  under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron&#8217;s cruelty may sometimes  sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us  for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the  approval of their consciences.<\/strong>&#8221; &#8212;C.S. Lewis<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>After posting last week on the new Executive Board Flap from Suanhacky Lodge #49; John Pannell sent along an image of a similar looking issue from Gila Lodge #378 (the S35). The Suanhacky Lodge #49 you may remember, looked like: John wondered if: Did 378&#8217;s issue inspire 49&#8217;s? 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