Area 2-G 1955 Conclave Neckerchief

It has been debated on this blog whether the neckerchief shown below was issued for either the 1953 Area 2-G Conclave or for the 1955 Area 2-G Conclave.
Mark Eddy looks to put this speculation to rest. He advises that he has confirmed that this neckerchief was issued for the 1955 2-G conclave which was confirmed to him by the contemporary Lodge and Area Chief.

Area 2-G 1955 Conclave Neckerchief

Area 2-G 1955 Conclave Neckerchief

I’ll make note of this in both original posts.



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Look Back 1955 Area 2-G Conclave

Here is another post from nearly 5 years ago, this time for the 1955 Area 2-G Conclave. Anyone have one of these patches available for trade or sale?

Area 2-G 1955 Conclave Patch

Area 2-G 1955 Conclave Patch

Ray speculates about the neckerchief pictured below

Ray Gould speculated…

These are the reasons why this makes sense:
1. Look at the neckerchief, stylistically, it looks very similar to the 1955 patch (which also makes no mention of the conclave or date).
2. It is more likely that the neckerchief was produced for the 1955 event because a patch was definitely issued (for the 1955 conclave) and was likely paired with it.
3. As Bill states, it is possible that nothing was produced for the 1953 meeting (it was probably not a true conclave because the 1956 patch clearly states “Area II-G 3rd Conference”). This implies that the first “true” conclave was 1954 (which has both a neckerchief slide and neckerchief….both clearly dated and stylistically similar). I believe the said 1955 patch was erroneously attributed to this (1954) conclave in the collecting guide (it stylistically looks nothing like the other 1954 pieces).

I would place both the arrowhead shaped patch (I believe you’ve shared it in previous blog posts) and neckerchief in the same year. Either both were used for the 1953 meeting (very unlikely….because it leaves us with the no items being produced for the 1955 event) or both for the 1955 conclave (by deduction, it is more likely that either nothing or a much smaller production run was produced for the 1953 planning meeting….perhaps leaving us with the possibility that there are still 1953 items to discover)
My 2 cents-
-Ray

See the original post for the full writeup.

This is still a need of mine, does anyone have either the patch available for trade or sale?

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1955 Area 2-E Conclave

One of my acquisitions from the Central New York TOR last weekend was a neckerchief slide from the 1955 Area 2-E Conclave. The 1955 Conclave was hosted by Ganeodiyo Lodge #417 and held at their Camp Babcock Hovey.

1955 Area 2-E Neckerchief Slide

Mike Hulsizer says there were two varieties for the neckerchief slide. With and without camp fires alongside the tepee.    This is the no fire version which he believes may be the staff issue.

I need the other variety.

The OA Section List the following lodges were in Area 2-E at the time:

  • Ty-Ohni Lodge #95
  • Ganosote Lodge #159
  • Chautauqua Lodge #165
  • Tuscarora Lodge #284
  • Amo’chk Lodge #339
  • Tuighaunock Lodge #409
  • Wakanda Lodge #186 (to 2-H in 1956)
  • Ganeodiyo Lodge #417 (to 2-H in 1956)

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Area 2-D 1955 Conclave

conclaveThe 1955 Area 2-D Conclave was hosted by Kamargo Lodge #294 and was held at Camp Russell.

There were at least 2 items issued for this event, a pocket patch:

Area 2-D 1955 Pocket Patch

Area 2-D 1955 Pocket Patch

There was also a neckerchief slide:

Area 2-D 1955 Neckerchief Slide

Area 2-D 1955 Neckerchief Slide

Thanks to Tom Wadnola for the scan of the slide.

Since there was a slide, can anyone confirm if there was a neckerchief?

Update Oct 10, 2009:

Yes there was a neckerchief

Area 2-D 1955 Neckerchief

Area 2-D 1955 Neckerchief

According to the OA Section List, the following lodges were part of Area 2-D at this time:

  • Sisilija Lodge #19
  • Half Moon Lodge #28
  • Wakpominee Lodge #48
  • Mahikan Lodge #181
  • Mohawk Lodge #267
  • Ta-Oun-Ya-Wat-Ha Lodge #268
  • Kamargo Lodge #294
  • Loon Lodge #364
  • Onteroraus Lodge #402
  • Thay-En-Da-Ne-Gea Lodge #418

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Area 2-A 1955 Conclave

conclaveThe 1955 Area 2-A Conclave was held at Camp Alpine and was hosted by Shu Shu Gah Lodge #24.  There were two items issued for this event.

A pocket patch:

1955 Area 2-A Pocket Patch

1955 Area 2-A Pocket Patch

and a neckerchief:

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Area 2-G 1955 Conclave Patch

Ray Gould sends along a color photocopy of the 1955 Area 2-G Conclave Patch. He also speculates about the neckerchief I previously posted as the 1953 2-G neckerchief.

Area 2-G 1955 Conclave Patch

Area 2-G 1955 Conclave Patch

Ray speculates about the neckerchief pictured below

These are the reasons why this makes sense:
1. Look at the neckerchief, stylistically, it looks very similar to the 1955 patch (which also makes no mention of the conclave or date).
2. It is more likely that the neckerchief was produced for the 1955 event because a patch was definitely issued (for the 1955 conclave) and was likely paired with it.
3. As Bill states, it is possible that nothing was produced for the 1953 meeting (it was probably not a true conclave because the 1956 patch clearly states “Area II-G 3rd Conference”). This implies that the first “true” conclave was 1954 (which has both a neckerchief slide and neckerchief….both clearly dated and stylistically similar). I believe the said 1955 patch was erroneously attributed to this (1954) conclave in the collecting guide (it stylistically looks nothing like the other 1954 pieces).

I would place both the arrowhead shaped patch (I believe you’ve shared it in previous blog posts) and neckerchief in the same year. Either both were used for the 1953 meeting (very unlikely….because it leaves us with the no items being produced for the 1955 event) or both for the 1955 conclave (by deduction, it is more likely that either nothing or a much smaller production run was produced for the 1953 planning meeting….perhaps leaving us with the possibility that there are still 1953 items to discover)
My 2 cents-
-Ray

Area 2-G 1953 or 1955 Conclave Neckerchief

Area 2-G 1953 or 1955 Conclave Neckerchief

Was anything else issued for this event?

Update March 2017:
It has been debated on this blog whether the neckerchief shown below was issued for either the 1953 Area 2-G Conclave or for the 1955 Area 2-G Conclave.
Mark Eddy looks to put this speculation to rest. He advises that he has confirmed that this neckerchief was issued for the 1955 2-G conclave which was confirmed to him by the contemporary Lodge and Area Chief.

Area 2-G 1955 Conclave Neckerchief

Area 2-G 1955 Conclave Neckerchief



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Area 2-G 1954 Section Conclave Neckerchief

ConclaveUpdated:  Dick Krzyiewski sends along a scan of a 1954 Area 2-G Conclave Neckerchief was hosted by Otahnagon Lodge #172 and was held at their Camp Tuscarora.. Were any other items issued for this conclave?

Area 2-G 1954 Section Conclave Neckerchief

Update January 2013 Ed White sends along an image of a variant neckerchief. He is aware of at least one other neckerchief with this Red and Yellow color combination. He speculates that it may be a Lodge Chief issue.

1954 Area 2-G Neckerchief Variety - Lodge Chief Neckerchief?

1954 Area 2-G Neckerchief Variety – Lodge Chief Neckerchief?

Ray Gould has sent a copy of the neckerchief slide issued for this conclave.  This is  a scan of color photocopy.

Area 2-G 1954 Section Conclave Neckerchief Slide

Rob Higgens list the Area 2-G lodges in 1954 as:

  • Gonlix 34 (from 2-D)
  • Adirondack 357 (from 2-D)
  • Yahnundasis 465 (from 2-D)
  • Seneca 394 (from 2-E, to 2-H by 1961)
  • Aola 410 (from 2-E)
  • Manatoanna 461
  • Ona Yote Kaonaga 500
  • Yokahú 506
  • Otahnagon 172 (from 2-D, to 2-H in 1956)
  • Tahgajute 247 (from 2-E, to 2-H in 1956)
  • Ah Wa Ge 477 (to 2-H in 1956)

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