New York OA Trader

There was recently an auction on eBay, that pictured a wolf’s head in profile. The image is familiar but I can’t find it on OA Images.

The seller was disposing a collection on consignment from a collector who had 95+% of the issues from Thay-En-Da-Ne-Gea Lodge #418.

To the best of my knowledge, it is not from that Lodge. It might not even be a scout patch.

Does anybody recognize the patch?

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I was recently asked:

I am looking for a 409S16.  Unfortunately I don’t know what it looks like as there is not one pictured on OAImages.com.  Do you have one you could trade to me, and if not, do you have a picture of one so I know what I am looking for?

I replied with The 409S16 is also a need of mine.  I have not seen one.  It was added to the BB by Bob Connor before I took over from him.

I suspect it may be a duplicate of the S14 S14.5 or another S10 design variant.

By S10 variant,  I mean following the design of the S10 (pictured below) but with the dimensions of the S16 description.

Image used with the permission of OAImages

Does anyone have a 409 S16 in their collection or duplicates?

I’d be interested in a trade or at least a good scan to validate the existence of the issue and upgrade the BB description.

OK this is both a whensit and a whatsit. The patch below appears to be a patch memorializing the member lodges of Section NE-2B or it could have been issued for a specific Section Conclave.

According to the OA Section List, Section NE-2B was reorganized in 1988 after that years Section Conclave to reflect the membership evidenced in the patch below.

 Since Nischa-Nimat 181 merged with Ta-Oun-Ya-Wat-Ha 268 and Thay-En-Da-Ne-Gea 418 to form Ganienkeh Lodge #181 effective in 1990.  It would seem that this is either a section patch issued between 1988 and 1990 or perhaps a Section Conclave issue from 1989.

Can anyone confirm the issuance details for the NE-2B oval?

It can’t be the 1990 NE-2B Conclave issue since there was a separate conclave patch,  Skanando was the host lodge.

I recently acquired a patch on out favorite auction site pictured below. As you can see, it is a 3 inch round with a pocket tab. While it has an older look, it does have a FDL and has a plastic film on the back. Although, I would hesitate to call it a full PB issue.

While some folk from NYC think that upstate NY starts just past Central Park, I think this piece is from a bit further north. Possibly it’s from Area 2-G or 2-D.

I don’t know if it old enough to be an Area rather than a Section issue. Of course, it could also be a lodge issue too.

Can anyone identify this patch and provide a bit of background on the event and when it was held.

I recently acquired a patch that I have been told is from Section NE-3B. From reviewing the Section website, this could be true. It seems that at least for the 2003 NE-3B Section Conclave there was a program where participants could earn a “Allohakasin” patch by participating in training sessions.

This program gives participants the opportunity to earn degrees at conclave colleges for training sessions they attend. Participants would have to take three courses in one college to earn a degree-Associates, Bachelors, Masters, Doctorate, and Professor. Upon completing their degree, participants receive a diploma certificate and a patch with a specific border color.

This program helps conclave training by providing incentives for participants to return in following years by developing experts in specific areas of the OA program by focused learning, and by providing an incentive to the CVC of training to develop a good conclave program.

We will be offering classes in the following colleges: New Arrowmen, Ceremonies and Inductions, Extreme Scouting (High Adventure), Lodge and Chapter Management, and General Studies. Diplomas and patches are currently being designed and will only be available to conclave training participants.

Can anyone confirm which border colors were used and for what years? I believe the program was in effect for at least the 2003 and 2004 Section Conclaves. This is a sample of one of the patches.

Separately, I have acquired another Allohakasin patch, can anyone confirm if this is from Section NE-3B, and if so the purpose. Or if not, who or where was it used.

I was recently questioned regarding the Chappegat Lodge #15 YA1 which appeared on our favorite auction site. This was a recent addition to the Blue Book (6th Edition) and not one of my edits. It was not in the earlier editions of the Blue Book nor can I find listings in Arapaho, The Order of the Arrow in New York State nor in Bob Connors NY listings.

As you likely know, the Y category is somewhat of a catch-all, placeholder category until more definitive information can be obtained.

Two of the major traders from Ktemaque #15 one of the successor lodges to Chappegat are scratching their collective heads as no one can remember seeing this piece before.

Does anyone lese know the story behind this patch or have one in their collection?

While a bit off topic, I received a question from Dave E. following requesting any additional information anyone may have.

Included in the grouping was a felt patch with a letter “B” on it.

I assume it is either a very early Boyhaven patch or perhaps a Buffalo Lodge patch.

Everything in the grouping appears to be from the Schenectady Council and from the 1927-1932 time period.

I replied to Dave, with the bit of information I had and my specualtion. The Camp Book (Minnihan and Sherman) lists a Camp Boyhaven (1932) -1991 belonging to Schenectady County Council. Camp Rotary (1926) and Camp Boyhaven .

I would guess it is most likely an early Camp Boyhaven Patch.

Can anyone confirm a start date for Camp Boyhaven?