Posts belonging to Category Ko-Nosh-I-Oni #34



State of the Hobby – Ko Nosh I Oni Lodge 34 P1 Neckerchief

Here is another Classic Pie on the neckerchief, this one a Ko Nosh I Oni Lodge #34 P1 Neckerchief which recently ended on eBay.

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Clicking on the image will bring you to the auction results for the next few months.

Eight unique bidders chased this item making 20 bids. Five of them were still involved over the $ 40.00 mark when the hammer came down just a bit under $ 50.00.



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Ko Nosh I Oni Lodge #34 L1

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Here is another item not currently on OA Images, this one is from Ko Nosh I Oni Lodge #34 their L1.

Ko Nosh I Oni Lodge #34 L1

Ko Nosh I Oni Lodge #34 L1

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Ko Nosh I Oni Lodge #34 P1

Here is the third eBay auction for a pie-shaped patch which recently ended on eBay. This one is from Ko Nosh I Oni Lodge #34 which was from the Iroquois Council in Rome, NY.


Clicking on the image, will bring you to the auction results for the next few months.
Bidding started at only $ 0.99 and 10 unique bidders drove this to $ 96.00.

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Ko-Nosh-I-Oni Lodge #34 First Flap

Roy More recently posted on When is patch a variation and not an issue? Here is a sample of a First Flap variation from Ko-Nosh-I-Oni Lodge #34.  The differences are pretty small.  The scanner washes out some of the difference in the Blue Sky, but it is a very slight difference.  The greens in the Tree are a bit more noticeable.

Ko-Nosh-I-Oni Lodge #34 First Flap S1a and S1b

The Blue Book descriptions are:
S1a BLU R M/C DOR BLU sky; BLK details in tree; DGR tree and details; FF
S1b BLU R M/C DOR darker BLU sky; BLK details in tree; FGR tree and details; FF

I think this is a candidate for an MVE designation rather than and a and b.

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Ko-Nosh-I-Oni Lodge #34 L1 or Event Patch?

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Ray Gould has been doing some research on the Ko-Nosh-I-Oni #34 L1 which is not currently pictured at OAImages.  He shares his research and thoughts with us today.

One of the things I enjoy most about our hobby is digging up issues which were previously undocumented.  I recently acquired this piece from a collector who purchased the lot (the lot included another Konoshioni piece as well as other vintage patches) with an interest in a staff piece from an Area II-G conclave  After doing a little poking around on the web, I am of the belief that this piece dates to 1971 (placing it close chronologically to the other event patches of Konsohioni).  What leads me to believe is is the “Kingsley” clue.  A search for info on Camp Kingsley revealed that the camp started in 1921.  The “50” designation would likely have no other meaning given that 50th anniversaries for the national OA, local OA (Gonlix), BSA, and local council would not have paired up with the relatively narrow time frame within which the other event patches were issued (1970-1971).

I just had another idea…..is it possible that this piece is the L-01 (“flame shaped leather”)?  It is my understanding that the L-01 is silk screen on leather (this piece is s. s. on vinyl…however it is not uncommon for vinyl pieces to be mis-classified as “leathers”…the #357 L-01 is a prime example of this occurrence).  It has also been my understanding that the L-01 is a neckerchief slide (this piece is definitely not a slide but instead a rather large 5 1/2” tall and meant to be worn from the button on the pocket …evidenced by the button hole)……………….it is my understanding that Sheldon Bxxxxxx has an L-01 so I’d be able to make an confirm/refute that way……

Ray was finally able to see Sheldon’s 34 L1 which was the same as the scan he sent me.  He adds:

I wanted to follow up my earlier email and report what I was able to determine regarding the attached patch. Sheldon was able to pull his collection out and confirm that the patch identified as the L-01 in his collection matches that which I sent earlier (and attached in this communication). Even though it was originally identified as L-01, I believe an event designation as proposed below is appropriate (the eX1972-2 eX1972-2 (updated 4-24) as opposed to the L-01).

So here it is:

Ko-Nosh-I-On-I Lodge #34 L1 or eL1972?

Ko-Nosh-I-Oni Lodge #34 L1 or eL1972?

Blue Book stats:
L1 RED – DYL RED –  Flame shaped leather

What do you think? Can anyone else confirm Ray’s research?

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1976 Section NE-2B Conclave

conclaveThe 1976 Section NE-2B Conclave was hosted by Ko Nosh I Oni Lodge #34 and held a Camp Kingsley.  There were three items issued for the event,

A pocket patch:

Section NE-2B 1976 Pocket Patch

Section NE-2B 1976 Pocket Patch

A neckerchief: (more…)

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Unlisted Ko-Nosh-I-Oni #34 Event Issue?

DiscoveryRay Gould sent me this information a while back, and I managed to bury it in my exceptionally cluttered Inbox. Ray has done some more digging in his old Area 2-G stomping grounds and came up with another previously unlisted item.  This one is from Ko-Nosh-I-Oni Lodge #34.

I’ll let Ray tell it:

One of the things I enjoy most about our hobby is digging up issues which were previously undocumented.  I recently acquired this piece from a collector who purchased the lot (the lot included another Konoshioni piece as well as other vintage patches) with an interest in a staff piece from an Area II-G conclave.

I am including a better image of the patch discovered recently. I have learned some new information shedding further light upon this patch. It is definitively from Konoshioni Lodge and was given to members of the host lodge (Konoshioni Lodge hosted the 1969 Conclave at Camp Kingsley). The conclave theme was “Arrow Power” and theme was prominent on the conclave program.  I recently spoke with Gary H. (a member of both #500 Ona Yote Kaonaga and #34 Konoshioni from 1966-1969). Gary was a member of the host lodge during the conclave (and served as guide) and owns this piece in his collection. He is certain that these were only available to Konoshioni members (not a conclave piece) and were made in small quantity. I do not believe they were available to all #34 members (only those serving that capacity…I intend to follow up with Gary and see if he can further verify this information). With that information, I believe an eX1969 designation would be appropriate.

Ko-Nosh-I-Oni Lodge #34 eX1969

Ko-Nosh-I-Oni Lodge #34 eX1969

Can anyone else confirm Ray’s research?  My inclination would be to give it a designation as the 34 eX1969 eL1969 (thanks, Dave).

I need one of these for my collection!

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