Posts belonging to Category Kamargo #294



State of the Hobby – Kamargo Lodge #294 A2

In Central New York, Kamargo Lodge #294 was the classic small lodge with few collectors. In addition many of their early patches were restricted and in some cases, Ordeal members received a round but did not get a flap until they sealed their Brotherhood.

Here was an auction for on of the classic arrowhead-shaped patches from Kamargo Lodge #294, their A2.

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Clicking on the image will bring you to the auction results for the next few months.

Bidding started at $ 5.00 and 7 bidders making 14 bids drove this to a closing price of $ 87.00.



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State of the Hobby – Kamargo Lodge 294 C-1 chenille

Chenilles are there own collecting niche in our hobby. Here is a recently ended auction for one from Kamargo Lodge #294 their C1.

Some Chenniles can sell for hundreds or thousands of dollars, this one had a bit more modest value.

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Clicking on the image will bring you to the auction results for the next few weeks.

Bidding started at $ 34.99 and 3 bidders drove this to a closing price of $ 59.00.

A bit less than the 294 C1 I posted on last October.



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State of the Hobby – Kamargo Lodge #294 C1

Backing away from the OA Centennial and 2015 NOAC issues for a moment will bring a recent sale on eBay, the Kamargo Lodge #294 C1.

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Clicking on the image will bring you to the auction results for the next few months.

Ten unique bidders made 21 bids, with four of them hanging in at amounts over $ 50.00 before the hammer came down at nearly $ 79.00.

Is this the new normal for this issue? The seller seems to start all of his items with a $ 4.99 bid to create interest in his auctions and let the market seek its level.



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“It is of great importance to set a resolution, not to be shaken, never to tell an untruth. There is no vice so mean, so pitiful, so contemptible; and he who permits himself to tell a lie once, finds it much easier to do it a second and a third time, till at length it becomes habitual; he tells lies without attending to it, and truths without the world’s believing him. This falsehood of the tongue leads to that of the heart, and in time depraves all its good disposition.” Thomas Jefferson, 17885

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State of the Hobby – Kamargo Lodge N-1 Neckerchief Rare Rare Rare

Stepping back from the OA Centennial and NOAC for a moment will bring us to the highest priced OA issue to sell recently on eBay, the Kamargo Lodge #294 N1.

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Clicking on the image will bring you to the auction results for the next few weeks.

There was only a single bidder and the seldom seen neckerchief from Kamargo Lodge # 294 was what he wanted for the price of $ 750.00.

Some folk have said that this is the 1952 Area 2-D conclave neckerchief. I think it is likely both the Conclave neckerchief and the 294 N1. Similar to the 402N1, there is no indication of the lodge name or number on the neckerchief, my understanding it was sold to Kamargo Lodge members for secveral years in addition to being available on the conclave.



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“It is of great importance to set a resolution, not to be shaken, never to tell an untruth. There is no vice so mean, so pitiful, so contemptible; and he who permits himself to tell a lie once, finds it much easier to do it a second and a third time, till at length it becomes habitual; he tells lies without attending to it, and truths without the world’s believing him. This falsehood of the tongue leads to that of the heart, and in time depraves all its good disposition.” —Thomas Jefferson (1785)

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State of the Hobby Kamargo Lodge #294 Pie Patch on Neckerchief P1

Another recent eBay Auction for a tougher item and one of the nicer ‘old school’ pie patches from Karmargo Lodge #294, their P1.

The auction also included two lodge mugs, but I suspect the neckerchief was the prize here.

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Clicking on the image will bring you to the auction results for the next few months.

Six unique bidders making 17 bids, drove the price from the initial $ 1.00 opening bid to nearly $ 90.00 before the hammer came down on the auction.



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Set your goals high, and don’t stop till you get there. Bo Jackson

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State of the Hobby – Kamargo Lodge #294 A1

Here is a recent sale on eBay with an arrowhead from Karmargo Lodge #294 their A1.

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Clicking on the image will bring you to the auction results for the next few months.

There were 14 unique bidders, with three of them still in at $ 250, Two bidders with deeper pockets went after this both bidding over $ 300 before the hammer cam down at $ 305.



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“He that falls in love with himself will have no rivals.” –Benjamin Franklin (1758)

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Look Back – Kamargo Lodge #294 First Flap or Prototype?

question-mark.jpgBack in February 2007 and several times prior, I posted about the Kamargo Lodge #294 F1 first flap; here, here, and here.

There have always been some questions regarding it origins and provenance.

Bill Topkis, the former National Editor of the Blue Book had  advised me that at least 5-6 copies existed of the half-moon shaped flap in national collections. Local collectors advised it didn’t exist within the circle of old time lodge members from that time.

John Pannell has the image pictured below on his OA Images site (and used with his permission here).

Kamargo Lodge #294 F1 first flap?

This flap appeared, as described, in Arapaho II and also in Al Rosenberger’s “The Order of the Arrow in New York State.” Enough questions have come up over time, that the following language “Possible prototype” was added to the desription in the last Blue Book (6th Edition).

Ray Gould had uncovered the following information which would appear to corroborate this change.

XXX is former Lodge Chief for #294 (late 1950’s) and Area II-G Chief (circa 1959-1960 or 1961?). He has been an avid collector of #294 and II-G items (as you know). His perspective on the BB designation for the #294 is clear:

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1. (Also F-1 was a prototype. We rejected the samples–around a half dozen–because they were not consistent!!! F-2 is really F-1, and I had it changed to F-3 because F-2 had a squirrel’s tail and not a chipmunk’s tail. Kamargo totem is the chipmunk. They — BlueBook — still hasn’t paid attention. I was the lodge chief and was responsible for the whole series…F-1 through F-3).

Does anyone have anything more toi add to this story?



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