New York OA Trader

Another find from the Shu Shu Gah Tor last weekend was a new regular issue flap from Ktemaque Lodge #15. Ktemaque went back to its early years using the design of the S1-3 flaps, but this time having the FDL in Black.

The Blue Book stats for this one are:
S38 WHT R M/C RED BLK FDL; Design of S1 PB

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While reviewing a recently acquired neckerchief from Ktemaque Lodge #15, I realized that both of the embroidered neckerchiefs were not pictured on OA Images. I’ll rectify that and send the images along to John Pannell; but here they are for you to see.

The difference is in the color of the cloth used for the neckerchief.

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This past summer Ktemaque Lodge #15 issued a flap for the National Conservation & Leadership Seminar. I had not previously posted an image of this Flap.

To the best of my knowledge, Ktemaque is the only New York State Lodge to issue a patch for the National Conservation & Leadership Seminar. If anyone has information on an issue from another NYS Lodge or Section, please let me know.

The likely Blue Book stats will be:
S37 SMY R M/C BLK M/C BLU FDL Outlined YEL, YEL National Conservation Leadership Summit

The 2007 Section NE-2C Conclave was hosted by Ktemaque Lodge #15. It was held at Clear Lake Scout Reservation.

The Theme of this years conclave was Conclave Royale.

A Pocket Patch (pictured below) and Jacket Patch of the same design was issued. I understand there was a staff patch, but have not seen it. Is anyone aware of any other issues from the Conclave?

Section NE-2C is composed of 10 lodges. The 5 GNYC Lodges, two NYS Lodges from just north of NYC and 3 CT Lodges.

Ranachqua Lodge #4
Shu-Shu-Gah Lodge #24
Suanhacky Lodge #49
Man-A-Hattin Lodge #82
Aquehongian Lodge #112
Ktemaque Lodge #15
Nacha Nimat Lodge #86
Owaneco Lodge #313
Achewon Netopalis Lodge #427
Paugassett Lodge #553

The third neckerchief slide in the series is from Ktemaque Lodge #15. They issued a metal neckerchief slide with a light blue background and black lettering. It is approximately 42mm wide.

If anyone is aware of any other slides from this lodge, please send along a scan, and any other information you may have on when it was issued and for what purpose.

A few bits of information I’ve heard relating to New York Lodges.  Not enough for individual posts, but enough to share.  In each case I’m looking for more information, images and of course trades.

• Ranachqua #4 - One more in a flurry of new issues.  I understand that a new neckerchief is in the works.  More info as it becomes available.
•  Ktemaque #15 - I understand that two new issues have been released. Looking for scans and or trades.
• Half Moon #28 - a design for a new trader has been selected and is (?) on order.
• Suanhacky #49 - Apparently the 2006 TOR was the last.  The current word is the Lodge will not be hosting a TOR this November.
• Ty-Ohni #95 - will be hosting a TOR in late April.  Looking for details to post to the site and/or provide a link.
• Ho-De-No-Sau-Nee #159 - Mike Hulsizer brings word of multiple new issues from 159.  A regular flap, officers issue and banquet patch.  I will likely be posting on these next week.
• Kayanernh-Kowa #219 - while not hosted by the lodge, there will be a TOR on June 9, 2007 in Camp Woodlands.  unfortunately as previously reported, Half Moon will be hosting a TOR the same weekend.
• Kittan- has approved a new design for a regular issue flap.  No word on whether they will follow the Loon restrictions or adopt the Haudenosaunee #19 unrestricted regular issues.
• Kittan - Speaking of lodge #19.  I understand the issue of the "number" for Kittan is not final.  While initial word was that they would use #364 the Council Number, a motion has been made to change the "number" back to #19.  Of course the number only exists in the local lodge and not with National.

Anyone else have any information to share?

I have several information nodules that have been passed on to me from around the state. If you have any new information about your New York Lodge or Chapter, please send it along to share with the rest of the readers of the blog. As always, I’m looking to trade for or buy any new issues from New York State OA Lodges and Chapters.

In no particular order:

• Buckskin Lodge #412 will be issuing a patch for their recent lodge banquet held at the end of December 2006. The patch was limited to one per attendee. Those who were at the banquet drew a number at random and that will be the number of their particular patch. I understand that the numbers will be directly embroidered into the design as have several of their previous lodge and chapter issues. Looking for a scan from one of the Buckskin brothers when this is issued.
• Suanhacky Lodge #49 also issued a dinner patch from its banquest a couple of weeks back and subsequently issued a new regular issue flap. I hope to have images and both in hand shortly.
• Cory Haynes from Loon Lodge #364 recently advised that “I just found out today from the Loon Lodge Advisor that the sunset flap will be issued 1 per current 2006 registered lodge member, and not be available for the public (unfortunately this is what the youth voted to do).” Looking for a scan of this one too (and a trade would be nice).
• Separately I have also heard that Kittan Lodge #364 will be voting (re-voting?) on whether to use the number #19 or 364. Also they are considering amongst several designs for their first flap.
• George Jennings brings word from Otahnagon Lodge #172 that while they issued an event patch for last years banquet, there was no patch issued for this years event.
• Half Moon #28 has also requested designs from its members for a new trading flap. No word on when it will be voted on.
• Ktemaque Lodge #15 has issued 2 new patches, no word on what type or design. Does anyone else have any information on these?
• Shinnecock Lodge #360 will issue a special 60th Anniversary Lodge Flap in 2007. This special flap will reportedly replace the normal lodge flap during this 2007 only. It will be issued to new brothers at the conclusion of their Ordeal Weekend.

Your lodge not mentioned here?

Send me some information.

Updated 9-27-06 - Adjust Blue Book Number for Fake.  Missed one
This is the second fake with simialr characteristecs. I recently posted on fa fake of the 1996 NOAC flap from Man-A-Hattin Lodge #82. Here is one from Ktemaque which I’ve recently noticed on eBay.

The top flap is the Ktemaque S10. Note the RED OBV Arrows and the Yellow Sun and inner border.

The bottom flap is the fake, the ZS4. The major distinguishing characteristic is the OBV arrows are outlined in BLK. The innr border and sun is also DYL or GLD. This difference is glaring when they are held side-by-side, but less obvious otherwise.

Blue Book Stats:
ZS4 RED R M/C RED DYL FDL; Fake of S10 Inner border is DYL, Artows Outlined BLK

I had previously blogged about Ktemaque Lodges 2006 NOAC issues here. Below is a picture of the fundraiser set designated the S32 and X7.

I had previously blogged about Ktemaque Lodges 2006 NOAC issues here. Below is a picture of the fundraiser set designated the S34 and X9.