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Ray Gould provides some information on upcoming Kayanernh-Kowa Lodge #219 Issues. At left you can see an artists rendition of the set. Only the flap would be considered a Blue Book Issue.

I’m sending a pre-order flyer for a set of patches that HSC is producing to commemorate it’s 50th anniversary celebration of Sabattis. This is the gold border version (pre-order only…amount produced specific to pre-order quantity). There will also be a purple border set created (500 sets @ $15 each…with provision to create more if demand warrants) available to general public at HSC Scouting events (council office, camp, OA events, World Brotherhood Camporee).

(IMHO…would liked to have seen the purple border items available individually…I provided the designs and some suggestion on how to market them but they made some adjustment).

I thought you’d like to know about #219’s next 2 issues. Please share the pre-order sheet with your blog readers incase other would like to order. Proceeds benefit camp operations at Sabattis.

I’ll remove the link, once the pre-order period is over.

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Here is the second installment of the hardest NY OA to collect as submitted by Ray Gould. As mentioned in the previous installment, Ray specializes in old Area 2-G lodges and their successors today.

• #219 Kayanernh Kowa

• X-1.1 “Shadow Clan” patch …time will tell…additional border colors exist not currently listed in BB. NEED!!!

See the first link for the scan and the second for information on the additional border colors.

More lodges after the jump:

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Ray Gould brings word of a new event patch from Kayanernh-Kowa Lodge #219 for its 2008 Winter Banquet.

Attended the 2008 #219 Banquet last night (1/12/08). Issued one event patch ….they were 1/attendee there were a few leftover). Patch features an Abominable Snowman eating a drumstick with bloody teeth forming the WWW (lodge thought they’d have a little fun with this). I believe it’ll be labeled the eX2008-1 (I’m not aware of any other issues in prior 11 days.

I agree with Ray, the Blue Book Stats should be:
eX2008 GRY R M/C BLK BLK 2008 FDL; BLK Winter Banquet 2008 RED WWW

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Back in January, Ray Gould had provided some information which I posted on Shadow Clan Patches from Kayanernh-Kowa Lodge #219. I have amended that post to indicate an updated Blue book Designation for that issue.

The Shadow clan patches are used by the lodge to encourage participation by both youth and adult members.

Ray has provided an update from the Lodge Advisor which confirms the various border colors and their purpose.

The Shadow Clan Patch is a Kayanernh-Kowa recognition given annually to brothers who’ve shown noteworthy service during the past year to the Lodge and the Order of the Arrow. To qualify lodge members must score at least 100 points on the Shadow Clan Requirement Sheet available on the lodge webpage. Points are awarded for various levels of lodge support and involvement and then totaled to determine an overall score for the year. Only one Shadow Clan Patch may be earned annually. The patch is presented at the Winter Banquet for service performed during the year just past.

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Richard Krzyiewski left a comment on my earlier post on the Central New York TOR on June 9th, which I wanted to highlight here.

I have just returned from Camp Woodland and everything is all set for this years Central New York TOR on June 9th. The William Hillcourt Museum Staff has been very busy gathering collectables for the Live and Silent Auctions. We have 4 tables remaining and have decided to extend pre-registration until Tuesday, June 5th at $15 each on a first come first serve basis. Admission is FREE for anyone in ANY uniform, $1 for everyone else. Admission fee includes your Bid Number and a patch. Doors will be open at 7am for early set up. Food, Freinds, Fellowship and FUN. Hope to see you there!!!

You can find the TOR details from the original post here.

Richard Krzyiewski sends word of the Central New York TOR will be held at Camp

Woodland, Hiawatha-Seaway Council.  This TOR has been ongoingfor a number of years, and while I’ve been unable to attend since they were moved to June, I’ll be there this year.

Here are the particulars:

Date: June 9th, 2007

Time: 9:00 AM to 4:00 PM (set up begins at 7:00 AM)

Location: Camp Woodlands Kibbie Lake Road Constantia, New York 13044

Tables: $15.00 prior to June 2, $20 afterwards

Admission:  Anyone in ANY uniform are free, admission is $1 for anyone not in a uniform.

Live and Silent Auctions, Food, Friends and Fellowship!

This event has been growing each year, Tables are still available.

All proceeds will benefit the William Hillcourt Museum, and Camp Woodland.

Order of the Arrow Lodge 219 will be in Camp for their Spring Fellowship.

Always a Great event!!! Email rkrzyiew@twcny.rr.com for more info!!!

A few bits of information I’ve heard relating to New York Lodges.  Not enough for individual posts, but enough to share.  In each case I’m looking for more information, images and of course trades.

• Ranachqua #4 - One more in a flurry of new issues.  I understand that a new neckerchief is in the works.  More info as it becomes available.
•  Ktemaque #15 - I understand that two new issues have been released. Looking for scans and or trades.
• Half Moon #28 - a design for a new trader has been selected and is (?) on order.
• Suanhacky #49 - Apparently the 2006 TOR was the last.  The current word is the Lodge will not be hosting a TOR this November.
• Ty-Ohni #95 - will be hosting a TOR in late April.  Looking for details to post to the site and/or provide a link.
• Ho-De-No-Sau-Nee #159 - Mike Hulsizer brings word of multiple new issues from 159.  A regular flap, officers issue and banquet patch.  I will likely be posting on these next week.
• Kayanernh-Kowa #219 - while not hosted by the lodge, there will be a TOR on June 9, 2007 in Camp Woodlands.  unfortunately as previously reported, Half Moon will be hosting a TOR the same weekend.
• Kittan- has approved a new design for a regular issue flap.  No word on whether they will follow the Loon restrictions or adopt the Haudenosaunee #19 unrestricted regular issues.
• Kittan - Speaking of lodge #19.  I understand the issue of the "number" for Kittan is not final.  While initial word was that they would use #364 the Council Number, a motion has been made to change the "number" back to #19.  Of course the number only exists in the local lodge and not with National.

Anyone else have any information to share?

Updated 10-08-07 for item number

Ray Gould had left a comment on my Heard Around the State Post regarding a series of Shadow Clan Patches issued by Kayanernh-Kowa Lodge #219. A Little digging by Ray turned up the following:

He also provided me with an example (to scan) of the 219 Shadow Clan patch. It was available to those who earned a pre-determined set of points throughout the year (each OA activity or service was worth different points). This example was issued retroactively circa 2002 for those who would have likely earned it previous. There are 4-5 additional colors that may be earned sequentially (1 per year).

The Lodge website lists the requirements for the award. Some of them are:

You can only earn one Shadow Clan Patch per year.

To earn the patch you must obtain 100 points based on the points system. The points will then be verified by the Awards and Recognition committee at that year’s LLDC.

The Shadow Clan patch will be presented at the Winter Banquet the following year.

Blue Book Stats:

X1.1 BLK R M/C BLK M/C FDL YEL & RED; M/C Shadow Clan. Dome-shaped Earned Award

I had earlier posted under Camp for Trade or Sale about the potential sale of Camp Portaferry by the Hiawatha Seaway Council.

Some additional information was recently available on the MSNBC website.

Due to poor attendance, the Hiawatha Seaway Boy Scout Council has decided to not operate boy scout camp at Camp Portaferry near Harrisville next summer. Instead boy scouts will go to Sabattis Scout Reservation in Tupper Lake, according to council executive Raymond Sander.

But there is still some hope for the Camp remaining at least partially in Scout Hands:

“There is concern about the future use of the camp and perhaps partnering is an opportunity with another charity or another entity and to use the camp in some form or fashion in the future,”

A Scouts First Camp or first Summer Camp is always held in special regard.  While Portaferry is not mine, I know how I would feel if the situation was the same for Ten Mile River.

Not really a joking matter, Don Izard brought word to Patch-L a few days back that Hiawatha-Seaway was having some financial difficulties and was looking to sell one of its Scout Camps, Camp Portaferry.  Separately I also heard from Ray Gould, that Camp Portaferry has been underutilizd since the merger of Hiawatha Council and Seaway Valley a few years back.

Always a sad thing to see an old Scout Camp with its traditions and memories fade away.

You can find more information here.

Not sure if this means there would be any potential mergers in the future and if so, what effect it may have on Kayanernh-Kowa #219