New York OA Trader

Well those in Half Moon Lodge #28 knew about it, but I was not aware of this issue that has not been catalogued by the Blue Book.

This is not surprising, since there is no lodge name, number or other indication it is an OA item.

Tom Wadnola brought this issue to my attention. There has been a tradition it Half Moon Lodge where many Vigil brothers attending the ceremony would where a blanket. Since this is a Scouting organization, many of those were patch blankets.

A number of years ago a triangular neckerchief-like cloth with three appliqué red arrows around the border. The center of the triangle had room for one of the Half Moon jacket patches. This cloth was than sewn to the blanket.

A tradition began where a feather was given to each Vigil brother for each Vigil ceremony they attended. These feathers were sewn to hang below the base of the triangular cloth.

Based on the apparent age when these first issued, they will be numbered the X2.5

Blue Book Stats:
X2.5 M/C C WHT - - WHT, BLK, RED Feather 98mmx17mm, no mention of lodge name or number

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Tom Wadnola brings word of a new trader flap from Half Moon Lodge #28. They have moved away from there ’standard’ design of the Half Moon ship. The main feature of this flap is a crouching Native American with a bow and arrow. Overall a nicely designed flap.

Blue Book Stats:
S35 RED R M/C BLK M/C FDL; YEL outlined BLK BLK WWW Native American with bow

I had previously posted on a Section Patch from NE-2B, based on the responses to that posting, it was determined that it was not a Section Conclave issue, and was issued by the Section in the period from after the 1988 Conclave and prior to the Nischa Nimat Lodge #181 merger in September 1990.

Below we have what appears to be another Section NE-2B patch. Based on the lodges listed (Half Moon #28, Skanondo #64, Onteroraus #402, Nooteeming #443, and Munsi #444), it must have been issued after the September 1990 merger of Nischa Nimat Lodge #181 and prior to the 1994 Section realignments.

The patch contains the totems of the 5 lodges in the section and an Iroquois Longhouse.

Based on the information provided on the earlier patch, I don’t think it is a n undated Section Conclave issue. I know it is nit a conclave issues from 1991 or 1994 since I have both.

Can anyone confirm that it is not a conclave patch put a closer date on when it was issued?

George Jennings brings word that the Half Moon Lodge #28 TOR scheduled for this weekend has been postponed. He had questioned both the Lodge and Staff Advisor and received the following reply.

Due to low signups the event has been postponed. A new date and location will be announced shortly.

Once the new information is available I will post it to the blog.

Cleaning out my In-Box, I came across a few emails on an oddity from Half Moon Lodge I had been asked about. Three or four years ago, I had been given a color photocopy of an odd looking Half Moon Lodge #28 Flap. The person told me he had traded for it over a year ago and didn’t know anything else about it.  The story I later heard from another individual, was that the patch may have been some sort of executive board issue but the person only had this information third or fourth hand.

I was never able to track down any further information, but last summer I exchanged a few emails with the Lodge Advisor Bob D. and another member of the Lodge Tom W.

Tom wrote:

I am sure it was never a official issue but I believe it was a concoction by 2 youth who have been maybe a bit disgruntle and you got this drawing to you. I have Copied Bob DxXxxxx the Lodge Advisor and the final decision is his but I have never seen the picture. I do remember seeing a flap put together with glue 1 side being pink and the other I can’t remember but again not an official issue by no means unless the LEC at that time privately voted as it was presented at some Lodge event (I think a Winter banquet) but again I do not remember or can I find anybody who remembers it being official.

Bob D. the Advisor wrote “Yes the patch from (our) earlier (correspondence) is a FAKE.

I am not able to provide a complete description since I cannot tell all of the details about the patch from the photocopy I have.

A few bits of information I’ve heard relating to New York Lodges.  Not enough for individual posts, but enough to share.  In each case I’m looking for more information, images and of course trades.

• Ranachqua #4 - One more in a flurry of new issues.  I understand that a new neckerchief is in the works.  More info as it becomes available.
•  Ktemaque #15 - I understand that two new issues have been released. Looking for scans and or trades.
• Half Moon #28 - a design for a new trader has been selected and is (?) on order.
• Suanhacky #49 - Apparently the 2006 TOR was the last.  The current word is the Lodge will not be hosting a TOR this November.
• Ty-Ohni #95 - will be hosting a TOR in late April.  Looking for details to post to the site and/or provide a link.
• Ho-De-No-Sau-Nee #159 - Mike Hulsizer brings word of multiple new issues from 159.  A regular flap, officers issue and banquet patch.  I will likely be posting on these next week.
• Kayanernh-Kowa #219 - while not hosted by the lodge, there will be a TOR on June 9, 2007 in Camp Woodlands.  unfortunately as previously reported, Half Moon will be hosting a TOR the same weekend.
• Kittan- has approved a new design for a regular issue flap.  No word on whether they will follow the Loon restrictions or adopt the Haudenosaunee #19 unrestricted regular issues.
• Kittan - Speaking of lodge #19.  I understand the issue of the "number" for Kittan is not final.  While initial word was that they would use #364 the Council Number, a motion has been made to change the "number" back to #19.  Of course the number only exists in the local lodge and not with National.

Anyone else have any information to share?

Update - Ive just received word that this TOR has been postponed. 

Half Moon Lodge # 28 and Rip Van Winkle Council will be hosting their

1st Annual Trade-O-Ree on June 9, 2007.

Here are the particulars:

When: Saturday June 9, 2007  Postpned

Set Up: begins at 7:00AM

Hours: 9:00 AM to 5:00 PM

Where: Kiwanais Ice Arena, Washington Avenue, Saugerties, NY

Cost: $25.00 per table

Entrance Fee: $2.00, Scouts in Uniform Free.

A flyer and directions can be found at: http://www.halfmoonlodge28.org/tradeoree07

While I wish them luck and may attend myself, two comments.

First, Tables - the table cost seems excessive for a first time TOR and their is no indication whether they are 6 foot or 8 foot tables. It is definitely very expensive for 6 foot tables.

Second and more importantly it conflicts with an established TOR held at Camp Woodlands near Syracuse, NY. While the Woodlands TOR is not on the ISCA TOR Calendar yet. The host lodge for the Woodlands TOR is in the same section as Half Moon.

While not many people from the southern part of the state attend a Central New York TOR, it certainly effects other areas (Albany for example) where they will now need to chosse between 2 TOR’s.