April 20th, 2008
A Look Back - Ganeodiyo Lodge #417 J2
Two years ago we were discussing a new Jacket Patch from Ganoediyo Lodge #417.
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Two years ago we were discussing a new Jacket Patch from Ganoediyo Lodge #417.
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Matthew Crance sends along an image of the Ganeodiyo #417 R2 which is not currently pictured on OA Images.
According to Matt,
Got this picture from a friend- one had to attend to get the patch. 100 made about 40 participants. Reportedly part of the ceremony included the burning of the rest of the patches that were not given out.
It certainly is one of the toughest patches from Ganeodiyo Lodge (and still a need of mine if anyone has one laying around).
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Another pair of scans from Matthew Crance to help identify the differences between the Ganeodiyo Lodge #417 S6a and S6b.
The Blue Book describes the S6a as; S6a BLK R M/C BLU BLU FDL; DYL sun; 50×114 mm; fat FDL; GRN and DGR mountains; DRD turtle, WWW; YEL sun.
The S6b is described as; S6b BLK R M/C BLU BLU RED turtle, WWW; LYL sun; 2 GRN’s close in color.
Matthew Crance sends along a corrected image for the Ganeodiyo Lodge #417 S3. The one currently on OA Images is incorrect.
The Blue Books describes the S3 as follows:
S3 YEL R M/C BLU BLU FDL; BRO; 52×118 mm; thin FDL; GRN and very DGR mountains
The 1959 Area 2-H Conclave was hosted by Ganeodiyo Lodge #417. To the best of my knowledge (and that of the OACH by Dingwerth and Jensen), the only memoribilia issued for the event is the neckerchief listed below.
If anyone is aware of any other items issued for this conclave, please send along a scan.
One of the new variations in Blue Book VI was the addition of an a and b varieties to the Ganeodiyo Lodge S1. Many of the Blue Book VI variations, at least for the NY Lodges were the result of Bill Tpokis and Jeff Morely comparing and inventorying their collections, prior to the sale to the International Scouting Museum in Las Vegas.
Bill and Jeff discovered a variation in the first solid flap from Ganeodiyo. The lettering of the lodge name (and number) was in two different shades of blue. Held side by side, the difference is clear. Although the lettering in the S1b is described as Dark Blue, to me it is darker than the S1a, but not a dark blue.
Here are the pair scanned together. The top flap is the S1a, the bottom the S1b.
Does anyone have the pair with a more distinct color difference?
In a comment on an earlier post, Matthew Crance noted:
If you notice there is no lodge # on the top half of the flap. If you look closely after Ganeodiyo Lodge on the top half you will see that there is a black 17, which used to be white. Ganeodiyo Lodge is 417. This was the manufactures mistake and the patches were sent back to be corrected but the manufacture made us a deal that they would just paint over it with a special kind of fabric black paint that would not come off and they cut 20% off our cost. There were 100 patches made of both top and bottom. 90 were sent back to be corrected because 10 were already sold. I don’t know if this would mean a different classification but there are 10 patches out there that still have the 17 in white.
I think this calls for an “a” and “b” variation of the S24.
Here you can see the two flaps:

On my monitor, you can discern something after Lodge on the bottom flap. here is a close-up with the brightness cranked up.

YMMV, as with any variation, collect it if you choose.
Blue Book Stats:
S24a DGR R BLK WHT RED FDL; WHT 17 NOAC 2006, The Legend Lives on w/X6
S24b DGR R BLK WHT RED FDL; WHT NOAC 2006, The Legend Lives on Wht 17 dyed BLK by Maufacturer w/X6
The last one in the series of flaps for Section NE-3A is the version from Ganeodiyo Lodge #417 with their totem the Turtle.

Blue Book Stats:
S25 LBL R LBL BLK - RED WWW, NOAC 2006, E. Lansing, MI, NE 3A part of section set
Updated to correct typo in BB Stats.
Ganeodiyo Lodge #417 has issued a two piece set for the 2006 NOAC picturing a stylized turtle, their totem.
Blue Book Stats:
S 24b DGR R BLK WHT RED FDL; WHT NOAC 2006, The Legend Lives on; Wht 17 dyed BLK by Maufacturer w/X6
X 6 DGR R BLK WHT RED FDL; WHT NOAC 2006, The Legend Lives on w/S24
Lodge 417 has also issued a new Jacket Patch. While similar in design to the J1, there are several distinct differences. The two most obvious are the inner band is yellow not orange and the inner border is purple rather than dark blue
Blue Book Style Stats:
J2 RED R M/C LBL GRN FDL; 150mm Round design like S10 10mm letters, YEL inner band, PUR inner border