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State of the Hobby – NOAC 2015 – Revolutionary Trails / Ga-Hon-Ga Lodge 34 two-piece

Showing there is still interest in the OA Centennial issues, here is a tough one from the Central New York Region, the Ga-Hon-Ga Lodge #34 2015 NOAC Set.

The PatchScan stats show that only 100 of the set were made so it was one of the smaller NOAC issues and their was no separate OA Centennial Flap issued by the lodge.

34 2015 NOAC
Clicking on the image will bring you to the auction results for the next few months.

This auction is the only one I’ve seen in the last few months.

Since there were no other ‘true’ centennial flaps from the lodge, Three bidders were interested in this one. Two of them sticking around to over $ 100.00. The auction ended at over $ 115.00.

Whether it was an OA Centennial, NOAC 2015 or Ga Hon Ga Lodge collector, someone filled in a tough need.



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It’s On Again – 2 Boy Scout councils vote to merge

I had previously written about the Revolutionary Trails Council (RTC) and the Otschodela Council (OC) proposed merger of the two Councils in my post Off Again On Again.

While the merger was overwhelmingly approved by the RTC, it only had a small majority in the OC vote. Apparently NY Law requires a 2/3 majority for this type of consolidation.

A new vote is scheduled for November 16, 2015.

Well the votes are in.

Two local Boy Scout councils have just voted on the plan to become one. The Otschodela Trails Council – based in Oneonta – and the Revolutionary Trails Council – based in Utica – have started the merger process.

The new larger council will serve 3400 scouts across six counties. The merger must be finalized by New York State and the National Office of the Boy Scouts of America.

It’s anticipated that the process will be completed in several months and that includes forming a new executive board. The corporate office and executive director’s office will be in Utica, but the Oneonta office will remain open.

Leaders say that the two councils can do more together than separately.

– See more at: http://www.wktv.com/news/2_Boy_Scout_councils_vote_to_merge.html#sthash.fIV7U5KJ.dpuf

From the Revolutionary Trails Scout Exec.

The Otschodela and Revolutionary Trails Councils of the Boy Scouts of America are pleased to announce that we have voted to merge our Councils. As a result, a new and larger Council will be created to serve over 3,400 youth across six counties in central New York. An Executive Board comprised equally of members from the two former councils will govern the new Council. As an exciting bonus for our youth, we will be reaching out to them for their input on the name of our great new Council.

Merger discussions began eight months ago around a shared goal of attracting more youth to Scouting and creating a better Scouting experience for all. As neighboring Councils, it was a logical step to reach out and work together.



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“No man can well doubt the propriety of placing a president of the United States under the most solemn obligations to preserve, protect, and defend the constitution.” —Justice Joseph Story (1833)

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Ga-Hon-Ga Lodge #34 2015 Cub Scout Camping Award X13

Back from the 7th Annual Empire State TOR held in Verona this past weekend. I had said that I was looking for old and new New York State OA needs and hoped to find an uncatalogued item or two. Well it looks like I filled all three buckets.

Here is one of the new issues, a Cub Scout Camping Award from Ga-Hon-Ga Lodge #34.

Ga-Hon-Ga Lodge #34 2015 Cub Scout Camping Award X13

Ga-Hon-Ga Lodge #34 2015 Cub Scout Camping Award X13

The stats for this one are:
X13 BLK R WHT BLK BLK FDL; BLK Revolutionary Trails Cu Scount Camping Award



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Off Again – On again Merger Talks

I had previously written about the Revolutionary Trails Council (RTC) and the Otschodela Council (OC) proposed merger of the two Councils.

While the merger was overwhelmingly approved by the RTC, it only had a small majority in the OC vote. Apparently NY Law requires a 2/3 majority for this type of consolidation.

National however felt otherwise:

This simple majority satisfied the requirements of BSA, but not the requirements of the State of New York. The state requires a 2/3 majority, thus the merger was defeated. Following that vote, our Area Director informed us that we would not be allowed to conduct a search for a Scout Executive and must merge with another council to meet the minimum standards set by the national office. Our future is in our hands and we are forced to make some timely decisions.

In the wake of the defeat, an Ad-hoc committee (with a majority of members speaking against the original merge) was formed to take a closer look at our neighboring councils to consider which one(s) we should consider for a merge. The results of that committee’s findings are attached. Some local councils would present financial challenges, others would force the closure of Henderson.

The Committee felt it was best to:

…continue talks with Revolutionary Trails, as we address the three issues that appear to be of the utmost concern for people who are on “both sides of the fence”, 1) the preservation of Henderson Scout Reservation, 2) assurance that our financial situation is secure and 3) a continued office presence in the Oneonta area.

A new vote is scheduled for November 16, 2015.



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“I suppose, indeed, that in public life, a man whose political principles have any decided character and who has energy enough to give them effect must always expect to encounter political hostility from those of adverse principles.” Thomas Jefferson

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Ga-Hon-Ga Lodge #34 2015 NOAC Section NE-3B Set S16

As has happened for previous NOAC’s, Section NE-3B issued a set of flaps for the 2015 NOAC. The 5 Lodges in Section NE-3B are Ga-Hon-Ga Lodge #34, Otahnagon Lodge #172, Ajapeu Lodge #351, Kittan Lodge #364, and Onteroraus Lodge #402. Ajapeu Lodge #351 is the only lodge which is not from New York State. The flaps share a common design and the version for Ga-Hon-Ga Lodge #34 is shown below.

Ga-Hon-Ga Lodge #34 2015 NOAC Section NE-3B Set S16

Ga-Hon-Ga Lodge #34 2015 NOAC Section NE-3B Set S16

The stats for this set should be:
S16 SAL R M/C YEL BLU FDL; RED 2015 NOAC, Headwaters Paddle Onward Section NE-3B



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“In selecting men for office, let principle be your guide. Regard not the particular sect or denomination of the candidate — look to his character.” –Noah Webster

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Ga-Hon-Ga Lodge #34 2015 NOAC 100 OA Set S15X12

Ga Hon Ga Lodge #34 has issued a 2 piece set for the 2015 NOAC and 100th Anniversary of the OA. My understanding is there will be no separate Centennial issue from the Lodge. As has been recently typical for them the flap contains no reference to NOAC or the OA Centennial, so it could be used as a regular flap.

Ga Hon Ga Lodge #34 2015 NOAC 100 OA S15 X12

Ga Hon Ga Lodge #34 2015 NOAC 100 OA S15 X12

The stats for this set should be:
S15 GRY R M/C WHT WHT FDL; WHT outlined BLK WWW, WHT Revoultionary Trails Council w/X12 – 2015 NOAC
X12 GRY R M/C – – WHT It Starts With Us, NOAC 2015 MSU OA100 Logo wS15

the PatchScan stats show that only 100 of the set were made.



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“How prone all human institutions have been to decay; how subject the best-formed and most wisely organized governments have been to lose their check and totally dissolve; how difficult it has been for mankind, in all ages and countries, to preserve their dearest rights and best privileges, impelled as it were by an irresistible fate of despotism.” —James Monroe, speech in the Virginia Ratifying Convention, 1788

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Two Local Boy Scout Councils Consider Consolidation

As reported by WKTV,

Over the past month, the Revolutionary Trails Council (RTC) and the Otschodela Council (OC) have been working on a comprehensive and detailed feasibility study to examine the possible consolidation of the two Councils.

The new Boy Scout Council would include over 3,500 Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts from over six counties. If the consolidation goes through, it would make the new Council one of the strongest in the state.

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“It makes sense that two strong Councils can do more together than separately” said Rick Bamberger, Council President of the Otschodela Council headquartered in Oneonta. “If the feasibility study results show that this is the right thing to do, then we are going to harness the combined strengths of both of our Councils to offer a world-class Scouting experience to our Scouts and volunteer leaders.”

The affected OA Lodges would be Ga Hon Ga Lodge #34 and Onteroraus Lodge #402.

Meetings will take place in both councils over the next few weeks.



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“There are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.” —James Madison, speech to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, 1788

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