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Look Back – Fake BBS State Strip Discovered

Three years ago, I posted on a Fake Blue on Blue Air Scout State Strip discovered by Roy Weatherbee.

An Air Scout BBS 1/4 state strip (“MASS.”) was recently offered for sale on eBay. Bidding was heated, with two bidders topping $500 (four bidders over $300).

As Air Scout state strips are quite rare, I was surprised to receive a Second Chance offer at my (distant third) bid. Unfortunately, my luck was too good to be true, as the item (upon close inspection) turned out to be a modern counterfeit. (I don’t believe the seller was even aware, nor was any deceit intended, and my purchase was refunded immediately).

He provided a link showing the difference in the real and fake versions.

However, regardless of the source, these fake strips are out there, and I’ve prepared a document to explain the differences between these and the real McCoy. This info may be downloaded from the following link:
http://www.pakachoag.com/info/BBS.pdf

Lets be careful out there.

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Update – Ho-Nan-Ne-Ho-Ont Lodge #165 2010 National Jamboree Private Issue ZS1

I had previously written about a 2-piece set issued for the 2010 National Jamboree by Ho-Nan-Ne-Ho-Ont Lodge #165. The design is their Heron Man with tattoos of the totems of the 3 predecessor lodges on its arm. I also wrote about another 2010 Jamboree issue apparently from Ho-Nan-Ne-Ho-Ont Lodge #165.

If you look closely at this flap, the three predecessor lodge totems appear on this flap as well.

I received word from the Council Executive that this was not an authorized Lodge issue, and should not be considered as such. It will be listed as a Z – a Fake or Private Issue.

While I did update the original post to reflect this, I wanted to post it as a new post as well so it would be seen by all.

Ho-Nan-Ne-Ho-Ont Lodge #165 2010 National Jamboree Private Issue ZS1

The stats should be:
ZS1 BLK R M/C RED – GRY WWW, RED 2010 National Jamboree Staff

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Fake Blue on Blue State Strips Recently Discovered

Roy Weatherbee recently posted some information on Patch-L regarding a newly discovered fake of an Air Scout State Strip.

I’d like to warn the collecting community about a recent discovery.

An Air Scout BBS 1/4 state strip (“MASS.”) was recently offered for sale on eBay.  Bidding was heated, with two bidders topping $500 (four bidders over $300).

As Air Scout state strips are quite rare, I was surprised to receive a Second Chance offer at my (distant third) bid. Unfortunately, my luck was too good to be true, as the item (upon close inspection) turned out to be a modern counterfeit. (I don’t believe the seller was even aware, nor was any deceit intended, and my purchase was refunded immediately).

However, regardless of the source, these fake strips are out there, and I’ve prepared a document to explain the differences between these and the real McCoy. This info may be downloaded from the following link:
http://www.pakachoag.com/info/BBS.pdf
If anyone out in patch land happens to have a real one of these available, I would be quite interested in trading for it, as well as for any of the other New England states (CONN, MASS, ME, NH, RI, VT) in any air scout or sea scout color combination.

Let’s be careful out there.

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More Malaysian Fakes and Fakers

Roy More posted on his blog about a new seller from Malaysia, wishingtree07, selling fakes on eBay. One of the items he has for sale, was a Sislija Lodge #19, fortunately none sold.

Unfortunately, fakes of this issue seem to be a cottage industry in Malaysia. Other sellers include, gs-gateway, jtcorner, and jt_tower.

Beware of your dealing and use available resources such as OA Images to verify you are getting what you expect.

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Fake – Ona Yote Dance Team Jacket Patch on eBay

Ray Gould has pointed out a new fake on eBay. The seller is from Germany. According to Ray;

Please include a post oin your blog to inform those that read it that the seller patch–world (Germany) is producing fakes and attempting to pass them off as real. His example of the #34 dance team patch is a clear fake (fully embroidered) and may even be a 3″ round (instead of a jacket patch). The auction has been bid up to $150+. Looking at his feedback, it appears that he has given refunds to those who have been dissatisfied with receiving a fake (especially when purchased under the belief it was authentic). He has kept all bid activity private (usernames are completely hidden and not scrambled like normal auctions). I notified a friend who I suspected might bid (he was under the belief the item was authentic and had placed a significant bid). Please spread the word.
The seller has other Scout patches for sale, but this appears to be the only one from New York.
Dave Scocca advised of a Nentico Lodge #12 Fake from the same seller a few days ago.
The real item is a twill jacket patch. A picture of the ‘real’ patch is shown below. The image is of the patch in my collection, which I provided to John years ago.
Image used by permission of OA Images

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Ona Yote Kaonaga Lodge #500 Fake ZR1

Focus on Fakes Another new fake recently surfaced, from a New York OA Lodge, Ona Yote Kaonaga Lodge #500.  To date, the is the first cataloged fake of the R1.

First the real one which the Blue Book describes as:

R1 RED R ORG BLU O NA YOTE KA O NA GA; 76 mm

Ona Yote Kaonaga Lodge #500 ZR1

The fake, has a much more modern look. It has a YOR background, a Flat Rolled edge, twill right smooth and is approximately 82mm wide.

Ona Yote Kaonaga Lodge #500 Fake ZR1

The Blue Book stats for the fake:
ZR1 RED R YOR BLU – Modern fake of R1, FRE, 82mm wide TRS PB

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Kitchawonk Lodge #32 Fake Flap ZS1 and ZS2

Focus on FakesI had previously posted on what I thought was the Kitchawonk Lodge #32 ZS1 until John Pannell pointed out he already had a ZS1 on his site which I had missed. Here they are side by side (well top to bottom) for comparison.  You’ll note the tags and letters are different too, so it not just a difference in the scans.

Kitchawonk Lodge #32 Fake Flap ZS1

Blue Book Stats:
ZS1 BLK C YEL BLK – RED WWW Arrow left Modern era Fake (2007)

Kitchawonk Lodge #32 Fake Flap ZS2

Blue Book Stats:
ZS2 BLK C ORG BLK – RED WWW Arrow left Modern era Fake (2007)

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