Articles from August 2009

Otetiana/Finger Lakes Councils Merger Update

updateI had previously written about the merger between Otetiana and Finger Lakes Councils.

Rob Cunningham sends along some information about the upcoming changes for the councils

A new name is being considered for the council (Otetiana / Finger Lakes)- “Seneca Waterways Council”,

and their related lodges.

and one of the most popular proposed names for the new lodge is “Ghost Deer Lodge,” pertaining to the rare white deer that live around Seneca Lake.  A closed doors youth meeting of the two lodges is being held at Camp Cutler in three weeks to work on lodge merger details, the results of which will be voted on by the respective LEC’s sometime thereafter.

Rob also advises on the final Ty-Ohni Lodge #95 events and pr0posed patch issues.

The final Ty-Ohni Lodge Fellowship Weekend will be held Oct. 2-4th at Camp Cutler.  The theme is “Last Call” and the patch will feature Dr. Arthur Parker, relative of Eli Parker and Mary Jemison and Director of the Rochester Museum in the 1930’s.

When Lodge 95 was being formed, a group of members asked him what he thought an appropriate name for the new lodge would be, and he suggested the name “Ty-Ohni.”

The final Ty-Ohni lodge event will be the annual banquet, to be held in January, 2010.  A merger 2-piece flap set has been proposed, featuring a wolf and turtle on the bottom half looking upwards to a white deer which will be featured on the flap.

Looks like the merger is progressing, more details when available.


Wit makes its own welcome, and levels all distinctions. No dignity, no learning, no force of character, can make any stand against good wit.
Ralph Waldo Emerson, Letters and Social Aims: The Comic, 1876
US essayist & poet (1803 – 1882)

How High Will It Go? Black Eagle Lodge #482 NOAC 2009

I previously wrote about the differences in several Black Eagle Lodge #482 auctions which took place earlier this month.

There is now another Black Eagle trader flap which recently started on eBay at $4.00

You can see it by clicking on the image below:

482 new

As of this post, there are over 6 1/2 days to go, so how high will it go?


There are no whole truths; all truths are half- truths. It is trying to treat them as whole truths that plays the devil.
Alfred North Whitehead
English mathematician & philosopher (1861 – 1947)

Shared Items From Around The Web – August 31, 2009


Western New York Traders Association 28th Scout Memorabilia Trade O Ree & Auction


Western New York Traders Association In Conjunction With The Greater Niagara Frontier Council

28th Scout Memorabilia Trade O Ree & Auction

Friday September 18th 5 PM – ???
Saturday September 19th 9 AM – Auction – Saturday – 1:00 PM (new time)
Location: 300 North Forest Rd., Williamsville, NY 14221 US

All Proceeds to Benefit Greater Niagara Frontier Council B.SA. Council Museum Fund & B.S.A. Scout Camperships

A Trading Only Area Will Be Available Food, Beverages & Snacks Will Be Available

Address questions to: Dirk Norwich, Trade O Ree Chairman
or to Paul Freitag, TOR Co-chairman (716) 829-9025

28th Annual TOR & Auction Registration Form Area Map with nearby Motels

Always a good local TOR, I’ve been a regular attendee for at least the last dozen years and I’ll be there again this year.  If you have ant of my 2009 NOAC needs or any of my other NYS OA needs I’ll be there trading both days.

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“The foundation of national morality must be laid in private families. … Public virtue cannot exist in a nation without private, and public virtue is the only foundation of republics.” –John Adams


What’s a Good Description Worth?

I recently wrote about the highest priced single NOAC issue from  Black Eagle Lodge.  The auction went for a final price of over $500.  The seller described it as


Notice the ghost lettering and compare to similar BEL 2009 NOAC patches – the trader patch had black lettering and will be a much easier find.  This patch has ghost lettering and only two were issued to each of the few Black Eagle Lodge participants.

This apparently was the delegate issue, but the ‘trader’ was also pricey.  The prices varied widely depending on the quality of the description.

One trader flap went for $46.00 with no eBay picture and a simple description, a second flap went for $64.21 this had a simple description, had an eBay picture but had more text devoted to seller requirements than description.

The third item(below), ending 5 days later than the previous two flaps went for $153.49 triple the first item. More buyer friendly? Bidders worried about not seeing another? Or something completely different.

482 trader

Clicking on the picture will bring you to the auction for the next few months.


Doing nothing is very hard to do … you never know when you’re finished.
Leslie Nielsen
US (Canadian-born) comic movie actor (1926 – )

Shared Items From Around The Web – August 30, 2009


Ty-Ohni Lodge #95 2009 NOAC Trader Set S44 X17

New Issue
Here is the Trader set from Ty-Ohni Lodge #95 for the 2009 NOAC.

Ty-Ohni Lodge #95 2009 NOAC Trader Set S44 X17

Ty-Ohni Lodge #95 2009 NOAC Trader Set S44 X17

Here are the probable stats for this set:
S44 – WHT R M/C M/C – M/C NOAC 2009 Wizard of Oz theme w/X17 – Trader
X17 – WHT R M/C – YEL FDL; RED WWW, M/C NOAC 2009 Indiana U Wizard of Oz theme w/S44 – Trader

If fifty million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing.
Anatole France
French novelist (1844 – 1924)