Half Moon Lodge #28 J3 or J4

Going through some old files, I came across an image Tom Wadnola had provided on a tough Jacket Patch from Half Moon Lodge #28. Neither the J3 or J4 are pictured on OA Images nor in the Tracker Software. They are described as follows:

J3 RED R BLK GRN WWW; RED 28; 177 mm twill oval
J4 RED R BLK GRN WWW; RED 28; 177 mm: round

Half Moon Lodge #28 J3 or J4?

I believe this to be the J4. Can anyone provide a good scan or photo of both the J3 and J4?

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