Comments on: Section NE-3B 1998 Conclave Neckerchief and Patch http://www.nyoatrader.com/blog/2007/11/26/section-ne-3b-1998-conclave-neckerchief-and-patch/ Collecting New York State OA, one patch at a time. Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:28:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Rob Higgins http://www.nyoatrader.com/blog/2007/11/26/section-ne-3b-1998-conclave-neckerchief-and-patch/#comment-16196 Rob Higgins Tue, 22 Apr 2008 03:17:23 +0000 http://www.nyoatrader.com/blog/2007/11/26/section-ne-3b-1998-conclave-neckerchief-and-patch/#comment-16196 Ajapeu 351 was definitely moved to NE-1A as a result of the '97 Realignment. However, VT does have close ties with upstate NY, and was in NE-2A from 1989-94. It's certainly possible that they sent a small contingent to visit; however, being listed on the patch means (at least to me) that they officially attended, even being out of that section-- which does happen. I believe that they also attended their NE-1A conclave in 1998. The only picture I can find of that year's patch is very hard to read. It does list nine lodges, but I'd like to confirm that the numbers do include 351: http://www.oasections.com/docs/NE-1A%201998%20conclave%20pp.jpg I'll post any new info I can find. -RH Ajapeu 351 was definitely moved to NE-1A as a result of the ‘97 Realignment. However, VT does have close ties with upstate NY, and was in NE-2A from 1989-94. It’s certainly possible that they sent a small contingent to visit; however, being listed on the patch means (at least to me) that they officially attended, even being out of that section– which does happen.

I believe that they also attended their NE-1A conclave in 1998. The only picture I can find of that year’s patch is very hard to read. It does list nine lodges, but I’d like to confirm that the numbers do include 351: http://www.oasections.com/docs/NE-1A%201998%20conclave%20pp.jpg

I’ll post any new info I can find.

-RH

]]> By: Chris Meacham http://www.nyoatrader.com/blog/2007/11/26/section-ne-3b-1998-conclave-neckerchief-and-patch/#comment-14994 Chris Meacham Sun, 09 Dec 2007 06:08:36 +0000 http://www.nyoatrader.com/blog/2007/11/26/section-ne-3b-1998-conclave-neckerchief-and-patch/#comment-14994 If I were to take a guess, I would say that the turtle is from the impending merger of Ganienkeh #19 and Wakpominee #48 to form Haudenosaunee #19, whose totem was a turtle. This may also explain the phrase "Brothers Change, But Traditions Remain." I would also say that portions, if not all, of Ajapeu #351 were invited to the attend the event, perhaps because of one lodge's proximity to the other. Similar to the joint conclave of NE-3A and NE-3B in 1995. This, of course, is just a hypothesis. If I were to take a guess, I would say that the turtle is from the impending merger of Ganienkeh #19 and Wakpominee #48 to form Haudenosaunee #19, whose totem was a turtle. This may also explain the phrase “Brothers Change, But Traditions Remain.”

I would also say that portions, if not all, of Ajapeu #351 were invited to the attend the event, perhaps because of one lodge’s proximity to the other. Similar to the joint conclave of NE-3A and NE-3B in 1995.

This, of course, is just a hypothesis.

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