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What do Thay-En-Da-Ne-Gea #418 and Echockotee Lodge 200, Saturiwa Chapter have in common?

August 29th, 2007 in Thay-En-Da-Ne-Gea #418 |

Robert Mathis had a recent post on a chapter issue from Echockotee Lodge 200, Saturiwa Chapter R-1 . You can see the image below (courtesy of OAimages).

The Indian pictued on the patch looked awfully familiar. Take a look at this neckerchief:

Robert Mathis gives us the clue:

The Indian caricature was used by Saturiwa’s Shawnee District as far back as the 1970s, and permission was obtained from Mohawk Carpets to use their logo for this patch.

A little time with Google gives us Mohawk History:

Since its inception in 1878, outstanding products have made Mohawk the most recognized carpet brand in history. Mohawk Carpet Mills had its beginning in 1878 when four brothers from the Shuttleworth family brought 14 second hand looms from England to Amsterdam, New York.

and this little fella from a less politically correct time

The 1950s became a period of expansion for Mohawk. The Company moved south, constructing manufacturing facilities in Mississippi and South Carolina. In 1951, Walt Disney Studios designed “Tommy,” one of the most identifiable and effective company mascots in the history of American business. The “Tommy Mohawk” character was created for a series of animated television commercials with titles such as Tommy Tests Carpets, Tommy Plants Carpet Seeds, Tommy Falls for Minnie and others.

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3 Responses to “ What do Thay-En-Da-Ne-Gea #418 and Echockotee Lodge 200, Saturiwa Chapter have in common? ”

1. # 1 Robert Mathis Says:
   August 29th, 2007 at 9:26 pm

   Just one more point about “Tommy Mohawk”. Shawnee District of North Florida Council had used Tommy on camporee patches as far back as the early 1980s. Mohawk no longer uses the logo (kind of politically incorrect), but they still hold the rights to the trademark, and they gave the approval to the folks from Saturiwa.

2. # 2 nyoatrader Says:
   August 30th, 2007 at 9:10 pm

   Gavin Murdoch sends along these comments:

   This figure was the symbol of the Mohawk Carpet Mills
   in Amsterdam, New York. He was called Tommy Mohawk.
   Mohawk carpet Mill then changed their name to Mohasco
   Carpets. They moved out of Amsterdam in the late
   “70s. It relocated to several states down south.
   Lodge 418 from the Sir William Johnson Council,
   Gloversville, had as one of it’s chapters, Amsterdam.
   The Pres. of Mohasco allowed the chapter to use its
   logo. The Company President served for many years on
   the Council Committee and was a strong supporter of
   the Boy Scouts. When lodge 418 merged with the
   surrounding lodges, this Chapter neckerchief was
   issued to the members of the OA from the former Sir.
   Wm. Johnson Council.

3. # 3 Ray Gould Says:
   August 30th, 2007 at 11:02 pm

   It’s posts like this that keep me coming back to your blog Bill! What a neat piece of research about NY OA. Truly fascinating. Thanks for what you do and I’ll continue to “tune” in. My best-
   -Ray Gould

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