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	<title>Comments on: Ranachqua Lodge #4 New Issue S31 Ceremonial Team Fundraiser</title>
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	<description>Collecting New York State OA, one patch at a time.</description>
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		<title>By: New York OA Trader &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Blue Book Guidelines for Restrictions and Quantities Issued</title>
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		<dc:creator>New York OA Trader &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Blue Book Guidelines for Restrictions and Quantities Issued</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 02:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ellis left a comment on an earlier post regarding the Blue Book policy on printing information on quantities issued, restrictions and other [...]</description>
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		<title>By: nyoatrader</title>
		<link>http://www.nyoatrader.com/blog/2007/02/06/ranachqua-lodge-4-new-issue-s31-ceremonial-team-fundraiser/comment-page-1/#comment-7043</link>
		<dc:creator>nyoatrader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 01:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brandon,

Of course the short answer is that when the initial Blue Book policies were being made, there was a decision of the National Editors not to include that information when they set up the guidelines for the Blue Book.

The longer answer and no offense meant to John Tegtmeier, but who do you believe?  

Unless I order the patch myself or have a copy of the invoice, I can&#039;t confirm if the information is true.  

Nor can I confirm that the information won&#039;t change.  If the issue John brought to our attention sells out in 1 week and the LEC votes to reorder, the lodge will reorder them and the information is no longer accurate and could be misleading.  

Then a printed quantity of 100 which would also have been accurate at the time and printed in the Blue Book is no longer accurate.

Arapaho listed an F issue from Nischa Nitas Lodge #410 as only 100 issued.  At one time, several years after the issue date, I had 4 in my possession.  I never was in the lodge and it was located 250 miles away.  I have probably seen another 10-15 over the years.  It is not particularly uncommon.  The information Arapaho received was either incorrect (perhaps deliberately) or the lodge reordered.  

I&#039;ll likely continue to list information like I received for the 4S31, but it won&#039;t make it into the Blue Book and will have a caution attached to it here.

Thanks for the kind words.

YIB,
Bill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brandon,</p>
<p>Of course the short answer is that when the initial Blue Book policies were being made, there was a decision of the National Editors not to include that information when they set up the guidelines for the Blue Book.</p>
<p>The longer answer and no offense meant to John Tegtmeier, but who do you believe?  </p>
<p>Unless I order the patch myself or have a copy of the invoice, I can&#8217;t confirm if the information is true.  </p>
<p>Nor can I confirm that the information won&#8217;t change.  If the issue John brought to our attention sells out in 1 week and the LEC votes to reorder, the lodge will reorder them and the information is no longer accurate and could be misleading.  </p>
<p>Then a printed quantity of 100 which would also have been accurate at the time and printed in the Blue Book is no longer accurate.</p>
<p>Arapaho listed an F issue from Nischa Nitas Lodge #410 as only 100 issued.  At one time, several years after the issue date, I had 4 in my possession.  I never was in the lodge and it was located 250 miles away.  I have probably seen another 10-15 over the years.  It is not particularly uncommon.  The information Arapaho received was either incorrect (perhaps deliberately) or the lodge reordered.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll likely continue to list information like I received for the 4S31, but it won&#8217;t make it into the Blue Book and will have a caution attached to it here.</p>
<p>Thanks for the kind words.</p>
<p>YIB,<br />
Bill</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon Ellis</title>
		<link>http://www.nyoatrader.com/blog/2007/02/06/ranachqua-lodge-4-new-issue-s31-ceremonial-team-fundraiser/comment-page-1/#comment-7017</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon Ellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an avid patch collector and trader, I have to ask... Why wouldn&#039;t you want to include the restrictions as well as the run amount information in the Blue Book. It seems that the information would be very beneficial for a collector or trader trying to assess rarity/scarcity of a particular issue. And with lodges coming in and going out of existence, isn&#039;t that information part of the history of that particular lodge that without documentation could become lost forever?  Thanks for all you do for the Hobby!

YIS,

Brandon “Happy” Ellis
Eagle Scout / Vigil Member
Tsoiotsi Tsogalii Lodge 70</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an avid patch collector and trader, I have to ask&#8230; Why wouldn&#8217;t you want to include the restrictions as well as the run amount information in the Blue Book. It seems that the information would be very beneficial for a collector or trader trying to assess rarity/scarcity of a particular issue. And with lodges coming in and going out of existence, isn&#8217;t that information part of the history of that particular lodge that without documentation could become lost forever?  Thanks for all you do for the Hobby!</p>
<p>YIS,</p>
<p>Brandon “Happy” Ellis<br />
Eagle Scout / Vigil Member<br />
Tsoiotsi Tsogalii Lodge 70</p>
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