Another Look Back – The Value of Patches

Here is another look at a post from over 8 years ago, http://www.nyoatrader.com/blog/2009/03/26/the-value-of-patches/. Many of Gene Cobb’s musings still ring true today.

Levels of Collectors

1.) There are different levels of collectors.

A.) The money is no object collector.

B.) The money is an object collectors.

C.) The poor boy that struggles to make a living.

the Feeding frenzy:

At one time there were five major Louisiana collectors that collected any and everything from Louisiana. There was a competition to get all of the items first. We would all go to the Dallas Tor and other Tors and hurriedly go to as many tables as possible before the other Louisiana collectors did to purchase as many needs as we could before the other guys saw them. But guess what happened, the people selling patches at the tables were smart enough to realize that these Louisiana sharks are after all the Louisiana fresh meat that we can sell them so we can raise the prices and they will buy them and pay a high price just to beat the other Louisiana collectors to the patch. The prices just continued to increase and we just continued to pay them.

What is the value?

Another Gene, Gene Berman has often said it is not the winner of the auction that sets the new value, but the second and third highest bidder.  As each person picks up their ‘got to have’ item, the value drops to the folk whose pockets aren’t as deep.  Eventually a new support level is reached.

11.) Collectors, it is a buyers market out there right now. You the buyer must make the decision as to when to purchase and the price you pay. The supply is high at the present.

Still true or has the market turned?

Read the full post here.



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Look Back: Aquehongian Lodge #112 2012 NOAC Limited Fundraiser Set S40 X13

Five years ago I was posting about new issues for the then upcoming 2012 NOAC, Here is one from Aquehongian Lodge #112 2012 NOAC Limited Fundraiser Set the S40 X13.

Frank Mullane reports that this version is a limited fundraiser limited to 50 sets and only available with the purchase of the full set of Aquehongian NOAC issues. This is the third of the three sets.

Aquehongian Lodge #112 2012 NOAC Limited Fundraiser Set S40 X13

Now I’m looking for information about issues for the 2017 Jamboree, what is your lodge issuing?

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Kintecoying Lodge #4 Trails of Ten Mile River 3-piece set

Kintecoying Lodge in conjunction with the Greater New York Council and the Ten Mile Scout Museum has issued a three piece set, CSP, Flap and Chevron which commemorates the 90th Anniversary of Ten Mile River Scout Camps, the 20th Anniversary of the TMR Museum and the hiking trails of TMR.

Kintecoying Lodge #4 Trails of Ten Mile River 3-piece set

Kintecoying Lodge #4 Trails of Ten Mile River 3-piece set

Individual patches or the full three piece sets can be ordered online via the TMR Museum Store or through the flyer.



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Tkaen DoD Lodge #30 25th Anniversary Flap Gray Ghost S43

Tkaen DoD has issued a series of three flaps to commemorate their 25th Anniversary. The patches share a common design and transition from full color to full ghost. The design acknowledges the three predecessor lodges by using the lodge numbers in each of the three hills in the design, 30, 186 and 394.

Here is the third version, a gray ghost:

Tkaen DoD Lodge #30 25th Anniversary Flap Gray Ghost S43

Tkaen DoD Lodge #30 25th Anniversary Flap Gray Ghost S43

The stats for this one are:
S43 GRY R GRY GRY GRY FDL; GRY 30, 186, 394 1992-2017, WWW Gray Ghost

According to PatchScan, there were 125 sets made.



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Otahnagon Lodge #172 2017 National Jamboree SMY Border Set S43/X15

Otahnagon Lodge #172 once again uses image from the B.C. comic strip. B.C is a daily strip created by cartoonist Johnny Hart who was from Broome County, New York. There were two -2 piece sets issued which share a common design. According to PatchScan, there were 100 sets made.

The flap set uses the images of one of the main characters, Thor and Gronk the dinosaur.

This version has a silver Mylar border.

Otahnagon Lodge #172 2017 National Jamboree SMY Border Set S43/X15

Otahnagon Lodge #172 2017 National Jamboree SMY Border Set S43/X15

The stats for this set are:

S43 SMY R M/C BLK ORG FDL; BLK WWW w/X15 2017 Jamboree BC Comics Thor and Gronk 100 made
X15 SMY R M/C – GRN FDL; BLK WWW, National Jamboree 2017 w/S43 – BC Comics Thor and Gronk 100 made




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Tschipey Achtu Lodge #(95) Doctor Who 2017 National Jamboree Flap S26

Seneca Waterways Council has used a Doctor Who theme, as part of the set , the lodge has issued a Doctor Who themed Flap.

Tschipey Achtu Lodge #(95) Doctor Who 2017 National Jamboree Flap S26

Tschipey Achtu Lodge #(95) Doctor Who 2017 National Jamboree Flap S26

According to PatchScan, there were 1000 of these made.

The stats for this flap are:
S26 BLK R M/C WHT BLK FDL; WHT WWW National Jamboree 2017 – Doctor Who

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Otahnagon Lodge #172 2017 National Jamboree Black Border Set S42/X14

Otahnagon Lodge #172 once again uses image from the B.C. comic strip. B.C is a daily strip created by cartoonist Johnny Hart who was from Broome County, New York. There were two -2 piece sets issued which share a common design. According to PAtchScan, there were 100 sets made.

The flap set uses the images of one of the main characters, Thor and Gronk the dinosaur.

Otahnagon Lodge #172 2017 National Jamboree Black Border Set S42/X14

Otahnagon Lodge #172 2017 National Jamboree Black Border Set S42/X14

The stats for this set are:

S42 BLK R M/C BLK ORG FDL; BLK WWW w/X14 2017 Jamboree BC Comics Thor and Gronk -100 made
X14 BLK R M/C – GRN FDL; BLK WWW, National Jamboree 2017 w/S42 – BC Comics Thor and Gronk 100 made




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