State of the Hobby – Area II-E 1949 Conclave Neckerchief

An auction recently ended on eBay for an Area II-E 1949 Conclave Neckerchief. This is the oldest Area conclave item from Western New York State.


Clicking on the image will bring you to the auction results for the next few months.

There were 3 unique bidders for this neckerchief, and they pushed the price past $ 99.99 starting bid until the hammer finally came down at nearly $ 146.00.

The OA Section List the following lodges were in Area 2-E at the time:

  • Ty-Ohni Lodge #95
  • Ganosote Lodge #159
  • Chautauqua Lodge #165
  • Wakanda Lodge #186
  • Tuscarora Lodge #284
  • Amo’chk Lodge #339
  • Tuighaunock Lodge #409
  • Ganeodiyo Lodge #417



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Look Back – Kittan Lodge #364 2015 NOAC Red Bordered Set S34X17

With the 2017 National Jamboree only a bit more than a month away, today we look back at one of Kittan Lodge #364 2015 NOAC Red Bordered Set S34X17.

Kittan Lodge #364 2015 NOAC Red Bordered Set S34X17

Kittan Lodge #364 2015 NOAC Red Bordered Set S34X17

Kittan Lodge has issued two 2-piece sets for the 2017 Jamboree which will be posted in the upcoming days.



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Section NE-3A 2002 Conclave Neckerchief

Todd Rogers sends along a scan of a neckerchief participants of the event.

I bought a collection last weekend and found an interesting piece in there. Apparently there was also a Neckerchief that participants could have made for that weekend. I’ve pictured it here but figured you’d want to know.

Section NE-3A 2002 Conclave Neckerchief

Section NE-3A 2002 Conclave Neckerchief

I’ll add the image to the original post whic shows the other items made for the Section NE-3A 2002 Conclave.

Anyone have one for trade or sale?



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“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclination, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” —John Adams (1770)

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State of the Hobby – Chautauqua Lodge #165 F1a FF First flap

There have been a number of New York State OA First Flaps which have ended over the last couple of months on eBay. Here is one from Chautauqua Lodge #165 F1a.


Clicking on the images will bring you to the auction for the next few weeks.

Bidding was spritied on this flap which started at just $ 3.00. Thirteen unique bidders made 17 bids chasing this flap. Four of them remanined at $ 75 or higher when the hammer came down it sold for $ 89.00.



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Another Look Back – The Value of Patches

Here is another look at a post from over 8 years ago, http://www.nyoatrader.com/blog/2009/03/26/the-value-of-patches/. Many of Gene Cobb’s musings still ring true today.

Levels of Collectors

1.) There are different levels of collectors.

A.) The money is no object collector.

B.) The money is an object collectors.

C.) The poor boy that struggles to make a living.

the Feeding frenzy:

At one time there were five major Louisiana collectors that collected any and everything from Louisiana. There was a competition to get all of the items first. We would all go to the Dallas Tor and other Tors and hurriedly go to as many tables as possible before the other Louisiana collectors did to purchase as many needs as we could before the other guys saw them. But guess what happened, the people selling patches at the tables were smart enough to realize that these Louisiana sharks are after all the Louisiana fresh meat that we can sell them so we can raise the prices and they will buy them and pay a high price just to beat the other Louisiana collectors to the patch. The prices just continued to increase and we just continued to pay them.

What is the value?

Another Gene, Gene Berman has often said it is not the winner of the auction that sets the new value, but the second and third highest bidder.  As each person picks up their ‘got to have’ item, the value drops to the folk whose pockets aren’t as deep.  Eventually a new support level is reached.

11.) Collectors, it is a buyers market out there right now. You the buyer must make the decision as to when to purchase and the price you pay. The supply is high at the present.

Still true or has the market turned?

Read the full post here.



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Look Back: Aquehongian Lodge #112 2012 NOAC Limited Fundraiser Set S40 X13

Five years ago I was posting about new issues for the then upcoming 2012 NOAC, Here is one from Aquehongian Lodge #112 2012 NOAC Limited Fundraiser Set the S40 X13.

Frank Mullane reports that this version is a limited fundraiser limited to 50 sets and only available with the purchase of the full set of Aquehongian NOAC issues. This is the third of the three sets.

Aquehongian Lodge #112 2012 NOAC Limited Fundraiser Set S40 X13

Now I’m looking for information about issues for the 2017 Jamboree, what is your lodge issuing?

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Kintecoying Lodge #4 Trails of Ten Mile River 3-piece set

Kintecoying Lodge in conjunction with the Greater New York Council and the Ten Mile Scout Museum has issued a three piece set, CSP, Flap and Chevron which commemorates the 90th Anniversary of Ten Mile River Scout Camps, the 20th Anniversary of the TMR Museum and the hiking trails of TMR.

Kintecoying Lodge #4 Trails of Ten Mile River 3-piece set

Kintecoying Lodge #4 Trails of Ten Mile River 3-piece set

Individual patches or the full three piece sets can be ordered online via the TMR Museum Store or through the flyer.



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“Justice is the end of government. It is the end of civil society. It ever has been and ever will be pursued until it be obtained, or until liberty be lost in the pursuit.” –James Madison, Federalist No. 51, 1788

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